Emira Picture & Video Thread

[stephenwhyte]

I’m sure all the patience will pay off in the end…👍

[NedaSay]

3 hours ago, stephenwhyte said:

Piece by piece……😎

Has the seat manufacturer been identified yet?

[Bibs]

1 hour ago, Bibs said:

They look straight out of an executive jet!! 

 

[ramjet]

Lear?

[AK70]

So it is March and we have not seen all the Launch Edition Colours on real cars yet?!

Becomes silly.. Come on Lotus how hard can it be to build six cars?!

 

[Mctaff]

And the worse thing is it sounds like they have the painted cars…

[dpm]

1 hour ago, AK70 said:

So it is March and we have not seen all the Launch Edition Colours on real cars yet?!

Becomes silly.. Come on Lotus how hard can it be to build six cars?!

 

Apologies for being a bit of a lurker here.

I enquired about this a while back (I am early deposit holder down for Verdant, I was enquiring about changing to Nimbus without delaying delivery) and the reply of Customer Care was this:

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I have queried whether we are able or planning to release images of the Emira in the launch colours. This was previously tested by taking images of the launch colours. The colours vary in every angle and the quality was not at the level that we would be satisfied with, therefore a senior decision was made not to release images of the colours to avoid disappointment or confusion in the future.

They told me to use the configurator.  This was 27 January 2022 reply.

I decided to stick with my original config (Verdant, Tan, Auto, Touring, No Black Pack, Diamond Cut).  Itching to see real photos!

Apologies if this is information is already out there.

Cheers, David

[Mctaff]

... thus guaranteeing confusion right now and likely disappointment in the future!

What kind of demented world do we live in when Lotus believe a render of a car is more representative of the colour than a photo of the actual colour?!

Quite bizarre!

[TomE]

We know the cars existed in the 6 FE colours back in October, because they took pictures then.  We also saw them during the factory visit at end of Jan.  Not publishing them (and therefore having control over the image quality) now means there are leaked unsubstantiated pictures and soon also photos and videos taken by the press - let's hope they manage to get some decent shots of all the colours.

[dpm]

10 minutes ago, TomE said:

We know the cars existed in the 6 FE colours back in October, because they took pictures then.  We also saw them during the factory visit at end of Jan.

Tom, is that post a little earlier in the thread a picture of Nimbus Grey?  (The post just before the picture of the very dark blue.)

Cheers, D.

[AK70]

1 hour ago, TomE said:

We know the cars existed in the 6 FE colours back in October, because they took pictures then.  We also saw them during the factory visit at end of Jan.  Not publishing them (and therefore having control over the image quality) now means there are leaked unsubstantiated pictures and soon also photos and videos taken by the press - let's hope they manage to get some decent shots of all the colours.

That is even more ridiculous.. 

[Beady]

my car is due for July 22 delivery (Verdant) so i will need to put pen to paper soon...but i wont be doing so until i have seen my colour in real life (not a photo or render). I am happy to travel to the factory to see it if necessary and if this means delaying delivery then that's fine. 

 

[TomE]

2 hours ago, dpm said:

Tom, is that post a little earlier in the thread a picture of Nimbus Grey?  (The post just before the picture of the very dark blue.)

Cheers, D.

I'm really not convinced it is.  There are some odd things about the photo, such as the obviously incomplete Emira with poor panel gaps (suggesting it's a development car) and the road-registered Evora in front of it that doesn't have a factory registration.  It's clearly not in the new assembly hall, so this may be an old picture of a hand-built prototype in the old building.

I saw Nimbus and it has more metallic and depth than in this picture, plus it's more silver and less beige.  If it is Nimbus in the picture, it's been taken in poor lighting and/or the colour balance in the image is messed up - I wouldn't rely on it.  The configurator is a much closer representation of Nimbus.

[Rambo]

16 minutes ago, TomE said:

I saw Nimbus and it has more metallic and depth than in this picture, plus it's more silver and less beige.  If it is Nimbus in the picture, it's been taken in poor lighting and/or the colour balance in the image is messed up - I wouldn't rely on it.  The configurator is a much closer representation of Nimbus.

Any car photographed under fluorescent light and/or flash will probably not be truly representative of its actual colour

[Emiralust]

It's almost comical they are making a move to "online" a concept this senior member of staff is oblivious to the inner workings of, the number 1 attribute of online is the mountain of information at your fingertips. It's like watching my grandma trying to unlock her phone.

Bell & Colvill don't get their demo car until June, the same delivery month as mine and many others. I can't believe that I am expected to sign on the dotted line to pay £80k before Lotus themselves simply show a picture of the car in my colour. Mind boggling, what are they so scared of/hiding. At first is was enticing, now it's just offensive

[Eagle7]

Having spent a great deal of time studying the photos of the paint samples, both the discs and the planforms while doing the renderings I did, I can understand why the Lotus team may not have been happy with photos that were taken.  These new paints have dramatic color shift, and pick up color from their surroundings a lot more than usual.  They vary in brightness and perceived color tone quite a bit, depending on viewing angle, light color and angle, and the color of any surroundings, including the sky.  When I created an inside environment with a simple garage-like room, the colors looked different than if I simply turned off the inside environment, and switched to the outside environment.  (I have them both as a group that I can turn on or off, so I can easily switch environments).  Sunlight and sky color, along with time of day and location made a noticeable difference in the color tones.

This was just with computer software.  I had gone to the trouble to even reproduce the metallic flake, both in density and color tone based on what I could see on the closeups of the discs and planforms.  I even went so far as to multi-layer the colors, with base, flake, tint and clear layers.  I can imagine how active the coloring and tone will be with an actual painted car in it's real-world environment.  Based on all I've seen and learned, the new configurator actually comes awfully close to the planforms.  I can see why they would recommend the new configurator to make your choice, as it's probably the most consistent look of the colors regardless of where you live, time of day or any other condition that would influence the look.  The same color car in Miami at noon isn't going to look the same as it would on an overcast day in the U.K.

Considering that the team at Lotus has the artistic skills to create the Emira in the first place, I actually believe them when they say they aren't happy with the representation their photos gave.  Their reasoning makes sense.  I'm guessing under the right conditions, the configurator is going to be 96-98% accurate to how the car will look in the color you choose.  It's going to look different in real-life depending on if it's in a showroom under halogen lights, or seen under fluorescents, or outside in bright sun no clouds, or cloudy day, early, mid, or late in the day lighting.  Even under street lights it's going to look different.  These new paints appear to be much more subject to all those things than the old paints in that regard.

Reviews will be coming and we'll see the colors, and I bet the same color will look slightly different depending on who is taking the picture, where and when they're taking pictures.  Perhaps that's why Lotus has painted the first review car white, so that's not a distraction.  I'm ordering Dark Verdant with the confidence that the planforms and configurator are showing me the overall average appearance.  These cars are going to look stunning in these new paints, no matter which color you choose.

[AK70]

Hahaha come on! I love the work that you have done with the renderings! Big respect for that.  But are you saying that Lotus has invented colours that cannot be photographed??? 

The pictures will be outthere with any review anyway. Or do they have to say, yes this is the car, but it will look different in reality? 😂😂 

Kudos to all of you, who have bought a car, that you have not seen in the colour you’ve order, nor driven, nor has been reviewed..  👍🏻 

I will certainly not buy a car that I have not driven… but that is only me 😉

 

[TomE]

I understand your take on it Eagle7.  My concern is Lotus are about to lose any control they might have had over decent photos of the 6 FE colours.

Just look at how everyone jumps on any leaked image and the debates about whether it's a "true" reflection of the colour, plus all the "is Verdant really Empire Green" discussions.  Lotus can keep referring people to the configurator - and I agree it's a very good representation having seen all the colours in real life - but soon there are going to be real pictures of real cars.

Lotus could have pre-empted that by publishing their own pictures.  People will understand car colours look different in different settings, particularly if there are photos illustrating this.

[LotusLeftLotusRight]

The colour of a new model that many customers see in print for the first time often lingers in the memory. I am not convinced that white will be the colour to showcase the Emira.

[C8RKH]

I'm really struggling with why this is an issue. It's a photograph of a cars colour. Depending on the medium it is printed on, the inks used, or the screen you look at it on online, will all give you a "different" colour even if only ever so slightly.

If this type of anal approach is showing the future direction of Lotus then actually i don't see it as a good thing, I see it as more going down say the route of Porsche where "everything" is controlled to the nth degree and not in a good way.

People have placed deposits and are hungry for images, information etc. This approach from Lotus where everything is known but nothing is confirmed is just, iI am sure, frustrating for many who just want to absorb the information and make a purchasing decision.

Again, this convo strikes me as being more anal than a baboons arse!  And that's a different colour depending on the medium you look at it through

Oooops, sorry wrong picture> Proper one below

[Rambo]

Is "baboons arse" one of the Lotus colours for the new Emira?

Confused from Kelso

[AK70]

Just think about it. Currently there is no Lotus that one can buy and drive.  Nothing in the showroom either. Just some online configurator. Here in Switzerland we don't even know the exact price, because the Emira has not been homolgated yet.. (so it is not even clear if it will ever roll on the street)

- The Evija has no been delivered yet, no reviews, nothing..
- The Emira has not been delivered yet, no reviews, some strange pre-view with a mockup and some test drives with pre-production cars
- The 132 not there yet, same story

One could come to the conclusion, that Lotus only selling concepts lately.. 😉

Ok enough said, I am (like you all) a lotus fan and owner. So I guess I'm just trying to tease Lotus a bit, so that we all can see and  d r i v e   any Lotus car soon. 

[Emiralust]

Here is your next first impressionable view of the Emira, this time in red (this wont be the FE red)

 

[TomE]

Interesting.  What country is that?  I can't see the number plates and road signs clearly enough to work it out.  That's not Magma Red and those are Base Edition wheels.

[Emiralust]

@TomE Spain apparently