jep Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Lotus Eleven is brilliant - just not sure I would want to drive one on the roads these days, it feels so small. And is small! Busy SE England is not the best place for one, so rules it out for me. I'm getting old - I keep my distance when in the R5 GT Turbo, as any modern hitting that is going to leave me much worse off. Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Franco Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 29/08/2021 at 15:39, C8RKH said: However, the reason WHY Lotus survived was in a large part down to the enthusiasm of its owners. It does feel to me like Lotus are sticking two fingers up at their loyal customers who have stuck with them through the good, and the bad times, and I think that is what is grating with some. It seems some people are going to end up feeling like Les Dennis did a few years back It’s a shame, but as they say “ Business is Business” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 21 hours ago, Barrykearley said: Seriously @C8RKH buy an older car. The Evora is sublime - but simply isn’t as raw as an esprit. If you think an esprit is raw perhaps you should try an exige 1 Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted August 30, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, C8RKH said: A nice Esprit GT3 Some would say one of the best. All I see is a down tuned Italian market engine being used up by lotus and a downgraded gearbox that’s made of brittle toffee. Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted August 30, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Hmmmm. I need to do some research. Problem is I don't like the big spoilers on the later Esprits and the GT3 little ducktail is iconic in my eyes... A V8 is totally out of the question due to the prospect of huge rebuild fees. 12 hours ago, Francisco Franco said: It seems some people are going to end up feeling like Les Dennis did a few years back It’s a shame, but as they say “ Business is Business” Not really! If Lotus make cars I don't desire others will. And with the creeping nanny /surveillance state coming maybe a new modern sports car is not for me. It's hard to be disappointed with a gorgeous red Lotus in the garage already to be honest. I get as much pleasure looking at it as driving it. 2 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Franco Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sorry, I wasn’t clear, I meant businesses that have been attached to the marque. I am in the same boat with my Elise, it may be that I end up keeping it. I will make my mind up once all the Emira details are in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted August 30, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Performance spec on a gt3 is much the same as the S I owned as my first esprit. I have to say the balance of that car was fantastic and a real sweet spot - but if you’ve had a tweaked S4 then frankly @C8RKH you wouldn’t think twice which option to go for. 1 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Looks like Castle have lost their dealership.Surprised at that. Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrylV8 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 possibly one of a number of current dealerships that will no longer be. Quote Darryl & Sue Proud to drive and own since new a true British supercar the Evora GT430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 22 hours ago, jep said: I am not sure there has been a better sports car made That would be the Lotus Europa Special 🤐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 @PhilT Quite right to defend your corner. I had a few Europa Specials in the 90s. Loved them all and brilliant on A and B roads. Not so much fun on a dark wet busy motorway. Gordon Murray has a Europa, so enough said. I'll stick with Elise S1 - which ain't much fun on a dark wet busy motorway either. Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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