Gold FFM TomE Posted October 4, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Evotion said: Ah, news to me. Sounds too early. This may mean early journo cars might be on different colours. This wont help us early adopters though. The factory have specified the press cars, alongside the dealers having to spec their demo cars. Lotus want to ensure there is a good spread of colours and other specs. But I doubt they’re building those yet, as they will need to be built to final production spec and they need to finish certification first. If press cars are due for Mar then I doubt build will start until Dec/Jan. It used to be a 12 week build time for Evora after order commitment I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiralust Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 It was at B&C's Tuesday evening event and he worked for Lotus. He said he had walked the emira production line the week before and seen a Dark verdant car/shell. I'm not sure why he would lie to me 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eagle7 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I sent an email to Matt through someone who works at Hethel, requesting that they paint a full car, or at least a body panel; hood, fender, door, etc. in the other 4 FE colors so we could see what they're actually going to look like before committing to a $100k purchase (U.S.). Considering how much these cost, I think that's a reasonable request because unfortunately, the configurator just isn't doing a good job representing the colors. Choosing a color is hard enough as it is, but even more so when you aren't sure if what you're choosing is going to look like what you think. I really don't like the idea of committing to a $100k purchase and just 'hope' it looks like what I want. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiralust Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Eagle7 said: I sent an email to Matt through someone who works at Hethel I also sent an email to Lauren at customercare earlier asking for it to be sent on. Effectively asking for a picture of a panel in each colour and the alloys to be released or at least unofficially leaked to forums so people know what they are buying. As great as mickle’s photoshop is if i was going for verdant green i would be concerned going off of the small disc sample or mickle’s photoshop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mctaff Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Normally your spec is locked in just before your car goes into build given build isn’t starting til spring, I’d imagine most of us will have seen press cars etc before needing to finalise…. Unless lotus expect us to lock everything in by November which is bonkers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM TomE Posted October 4, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I heard rumours from the dealer roadshows that the commit date for V6 FE first batch may be 4-8 weeks after 5 Nov close of this first round decision exercise. So that means before Christmas and well before press/demo cars. That seems very early for deliveries from late April. It's on my list of post-event questions to Lotus, as well as the point about more/better paint samples or pictures of actual cars as others have already raised. There are also now rumours circulating out of the weekend roadshows about what the 7 extra colours might be (apparently from a Lotus person), but only the vagueness of red and blue rather than anything specific. I think Lotus need to be open about that and the timing of when they are going to be available, as it may have a bearing for some people. It's important we feed these things back to Lotus so they are aware and can respond. I know they're also reading this and other forums but are not in a position to contribute directly. I hope we get some sort of published update or FAQs later in the roadshow window and before we have to make commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denno Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Watching all this unravel I’m kind of happy not to be an early adopter and get to see/ drive the cars before committing. I would be uncomfortable locking in a spec that I don’t know how it will turn out until collection ! 2 Quote Future wish list - Exige V6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailslides Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I would say there is little in the spec to lock in for the early adopters, in reality most extras are included in FE, it is down to colours, sports or touring suspension package and the choice of V6 transmission. Every other variable, non FE colours, AMG powerplant will be much later and at least by then the FE's should be about. I would much rather see the cars in representative colours before being compelled to choose, the current process seems somewhat haphazard, some questions raised here require answers. The last sports car launch I was invited to had a variety of cars in both colours and configuration to choose from, that was however a volume producer which of course, Lotus is not. I would not expect to be locked in before I had seen cars in a variety of colours and had the chance to drive at least both V6 transmissions, I already have both pdk and manual gearbox cars so am torn between which is best for my requirements on the Emira although my heart says manual 💖 It's still early days and hopefully there will be some progress on availability of cars before too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickle Posted October 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) So... green. The blue car was just too bright a starting point to show it anywhere close to accurate. So, I tried starting from an image of the Shadow Grey prototype which turned out much better! The darker grey car reflects light much closer to how the green would, which as you can see makes the reflections across the car much more realistic. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vfrRLN7NRUcBtdWv5 Here is where I got up to with the initial renders (starting from the blue car), which will require a bit of squinting but show the car with the black pack, silver wheels and number plates. I might put a bit more work into the above to show various green specs, as looking at both next to each other you can really notice the 'blue car' is a fair bit lower. Edited October 4, 2021 by Mickle 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenwhyte Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I really do hope the ride height of the finished production car is more like the Blue mocked-up car than the Dark Grey driver they’re using…….the blue one looks so much better sitting lower!👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiralust Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mctaff said: Unless lotus expect us to lock everything in by November which is bonkers Lotus customer care have not minced their words regarding the 5th November date. If you wish to change your spec after this date the default process is that you are put back in the queue. Whether this is enforced I don’t know. That is certainly what they have said to me on the live chat and spec phonecall. That date is also in the terms and conditions for the £3k 2nd stage deposit for the reason of efficient factory planning. That stance was from 1 week ago though so maybe this has changed. I wouldn’t advise going past this date without confirming how it will affect your queue position with Lotus Edited October 4, 2021 by Emiralust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenwhyte Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Not sure the Green really works on this car…..nor does the Dark Grey🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiralust Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mickle said: So... green. The blue car was just too bright a starting point to show it anywhere close to accurate. So, I tried starting from an image of the Shadow Grey prototype which turned out much better! The darker grey car reflects light much closer to how the green would, which as you can see makes the reflections across the car much more realistic. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vfrRLN7NRUcBtdWv5 Well done @Mickle I think you’ve nailed that for accuracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mneil Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 I sincerely hope that Lotus read these comments and take onboard the issues raised and up their game. With Greeley onboard, they have a once in a lifetime opportunity to compete with the established brand leaders, don't waste it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle7 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Mickle said: So... green. The blue car was just too bright a starting point to show it anywhere close to accurate. So, I tried starting from an image of the Shadow Grey prototype which turned out much better! The darker grey car reflects light much closer to how the green would, which as you can see makes the reflections across the car much more realistic. https://photos.app.goo.gl/vfrRLN7NRUcBtdWv5 Here is where I got up to with the initial renders (starting from the blue car), which will require a bit of squinting but show the car with the black pack, silver wheels and number plates. I might put a bit more work into the above to show various green specs, as looking at both next to each other you can really notice the 'blue car' is a fair bit lower. Thank you! The top photo I think is probably much closer to the way it would actually look, although it still may be a bit dark. As much as I wanted green, I'm afraid unless it gets better than this, it's just too dark. If it looks that dark in the sun, in the evening and at night it's simply a black car. I really hope Lotus shows us some cars painted in the other 4 FE colors, or some body panels, because I can't really go for green if it's this dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mctaff Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 9 hours ago, stephenwhyte said: Not sure the Green really works on this car…..nor does the Dark Grey🤨 Funny those are the only two I like!! 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenwhyte Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mctaff said: Funny those are the only two I like!! 😳 Each to their own Sir! And that’s why we are all different and all colours will suit someone👍😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sizona Posted October 5, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 I asked someone from the factory at the B&C tour last week re colours who suggested looking at some of the gamers who have good representations of the LE colours. I found this shot, no idea how accurate they are or if anymore on the inter web anywhere. The magma red looks very fire red to me and we know they are very close colours. Hethel yellow looks close too. I'm not a gamer etc so perhaps there are others out there. Sorry if this has been mentioned/posted before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK70 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Really a pitty these FE colours... Instead of the FE colours, I think these ones below would have been much better: - Blue: light blue metalic, Essex blue, Persian Blue, Midnight blue metalic - Green: I like the Dark verdant, but Motorsport green or any lighter green would be nice - Red: Why not the cool Fire red in the first place? - Grey/Silver: Nimbus is certainly special, but why not a "normal" silver? The grey is grey, ok fine. - Yellow: me like! - Missing: Chrome orange, any other orange Interior: - Dark brown would be top The Emira looks stunning in every colour, but with a more careful colour selection it would be an even greater success. Personal taste of course.. Quote For the few who know the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM MJON Posted October 5, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Colour is all down to individual taste @AK70but don’t think many would consider a dark brown interior as “Top” 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freefall_junkie Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 For those interested in Nimbus, I've just noticed this vid has a nice view at 20 minutes in of a silver/grey Emira in the design studio - I assume it is Nimbus but it looks lighter than the sample disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E1M2I3R4A Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Emiralust said: Lotus customer care have not minced their words regarding the 5th November date. If you wish to change your spec after this date the default process is that you are put back in the queue. Whether this is enforced I don’t know. That is certainly what they have said to me on the live chat and spec phonecall. That date is also in the terms and conditions for the £3k 2nd stage deposit for the reason of efficient factory planning. That stance was from 1 week ago though so maybe this has changed. I wouldn’t advise going past this date without confirming how it will affect your queue position with Lotus If that’s the case (which hopefully it won’t be), they need to make it easy for us to change our spec before 5 November. I received email confirmation of my configuration but no idea how I can then change the spec to a final configuration I’m locked into on 5 Nov. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK70 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, MJON said: Colour is all down to individual taste @AK70but don’t think many would consider a dark brown interior as “Top” 😉 Look at Aston Martin with the dark chocolate interior.. sold a lot of those.. 😉 Quote For the few who know the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickle Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, freefall_junkie said: For those interested in Nimbus, I've just noticed this vid has a nice view at 20 minutes in of a silver/grey Emira in the design studio - I assume it is Nimbus but it looks lighter than the sample disc. I can't remember where I heard this, I think it was another video, but I believe those are actually clay models with a silver finish so not representative of Nimbus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiralust Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, E1M2I3R4A said: If that’s the case (which hopefully it won’t be), they need to make it easy for us to change our spec before 5 November. I received email confirmation of my configuration but no idea how I can then change the spec to a final configuration I’m locked into on 5 Nov. First place to go to would be contacting customer care who are the same team doing the Spec phone calls and live chat. I've spoken to them a couple of times and they are helpful LOTUS CUSTOMER CARE Tel: +44 (0) 330 0948047 Email: CustomerCare@LotusCars.com GROUP LOTUS Hethel, Norwich, Norfolk, NR14 8EZ, England 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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