LotusFella Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 My drivers side turbo is leaking oil so am going to get them both rebuilt at turbo dynamics. My question is, the nuts are seize on and can’t undo them in situ. Also 1st gear judders a little so my thoughts were to take engine and gearbox out. I have a 2 post lift but it’s a small garage and would be easier to remove gearbox first then engine. Any thoughts suggestions on my plan before I go too far? Is it okay to take out in 2? Also i have had a search but can’t find any v8 removal threads. If someone would be so kind as to post up a link I’d be grateful. Thanks. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mike_sekinger Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 It`s fine to remove the gearbox and engine separately, although typically it`s removed as a single unit. You will need to support the engine from underneath when removing the gearbox, in order to be able to slide the gearbox back and clear the input shaft from the clutch pack. The engine removal is detailed in the Service Notes - Section ED.17 Page 61-64. You can determine which steps are associated with the gearbox alone. You can even use a small wooden block between the block and the chassis for support 3 Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post Barrykearley Posted October 31, 2021 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 A decent engine hoist helps 1 2 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KennyN Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 That chair is never going to take that weight! 😉 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted October 31, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Remember to pull the actuator fork to release the gearbox 👍 Just now, KennyN said: That chair is never going to take that weight! 😉 Bloody hell I ain’t that fat 🤣 1 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Barrykearley said: A decent engine hoist helps 🤔 I’m a bit limited on space so the tractor seems a good idea. odd looking V8 engine? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 ok how do this driveshaft pins come out? Do I need the special punch set or will normal punch be okay? Are they the correct? thx driveshaft pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted October 31, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Leave them insitu and split the yoke instead. Bag up the ends to keep the oily mess at bay. 2 Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sekinger Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, LotusFella said: driveshaft pins Just as an observation, that oil seal is not at the correct depth. There should not be an air gap between the sealing flange of the driveshaft and the dust seal. If the seals are not leaking then there is an argument not to disturb them, but next time it`s required I would try to ensure that they seal are driven to the correct depth on each respective side. Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Thx. I think they do leak. Either them or the driveshaft pins. Another job to do! Are they difficult? do you by chance have an image of what they should look like? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Barrykearley Posted October 31, 2021 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just drift the pins out with a punch Quote Only here once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sekinger Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 There is a tool designed to acheive the correct seal depth for each side. T000T0681F Lotus Esprit '88-04 Driveshaft Oil Seal Fitting Tool (pnmparts.co.uk) 1 Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espritv8black Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Mine leak and I did buy the tool and the seals from SJ Sportscars. I haven't done it yet. I would ask how long the operation takes, but know it is a while. Most people say that these seals are notorious for leaking and even new seals will leak somewhat quickly. What is your opinion on it Mike? Thanks Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted November 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 anyone in the UK have one I could borrow it from or even rent it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espritv8black Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Chris, I would but we know the current issues. Hopefully, someone nearby has the tool for you. I cant remember what the cost was. I don't think it was outrageous, but cant remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cweeden Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, LotusFella said: anyone in the UK have one I could borrow it from or even rent it? Hi Chris, I have one that I have lent out in the past, if you send me your address via a direct message I'll pop it in the post for you. cheers -Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sekinger Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 19 hours ago, Espritv8black said: Most people say that these seals are notorious for leaking and even new seals will leak somewhat quickly. What is your opinion on it Mike? In the past I never had any issues with the OEM black rubber seals. Of course the seals themselves are only part of the whole solution. Always use fresh rubber o-rings for the base of the output shafts and a good quality RTV for the split pins. Provided that the contact surfaces were good and the seal installed at the correct depth, the seals always did their job well. If the driveshaft seal surface is dirty, it really needs to be prepared with some 1200 grit wet and dry to make it perfect. In recent years, I`ve experienced more issues with the aftermarket brown rubber seals that are supplied these days. It is sometimes necessary to shorten the seal spring to increase the tension on the lip. This is easy enough to do and taking approx 10mm off the spring length will increase the pressure. For people who have the Quaife ATB diff installed, there is another challenge due to the absense of provision for the the o-ring seal at the base of the output shafts. As described recently in another thread, I used the `double seal` approach to stop leaks on one side. Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 I addition to what Mike said above about the ATB, my gearbox had O-rings fitted previously but following the ATB figment and no O-ring, I had new single seals fitted, and not had any issues with leaks. It appears to be random as to whether or not leaks occur. Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Suggestions on best way to remove the fuel line please. It may be the return. Fuel has been relieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sekinger Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Support the pressure regulator on the inboard flats of the body and undo the front nut. Once the torque is cracked-off, the nut is free to move independantly from the pipe. Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Thx just had to wiggle it out. On separate note I’ve removed the top bolt on the hub but the drive shaft doesn’t quite want to come out. Should that be enough or do I have to remove the spring and tie rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_sekinger Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 To remove the driveshafts, I`m a fan of dropping the bottom link at the chassis end and leaving the rest in place. You will have to pull the hub out a wheel/hub out a fair way to dis-engage the driveshaft. Looks like you`ve got several things on the go. Were you wanting to remove the plenum to remove the cam covers once again? Quote 1996 Esprit V8, 1998 Esprit V8 GT, 1999 Esprit S350 #002 (Esprit GT1 replica project), 1996 Esprit V8 GT1 (chassis 114-001), 1992 Lotus Omega (927E), 1999 Esprit V8SE, 1999 Esprit S350 #032, 1995 Esprit S4s, 1999 Esprit V8 GT (ex-5th Gear project), 1999 Esprit V8SE ('02 rear) 1999 S350 #002 Esprit GT1 replica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 No to get the engine out as turbos need refurbing and possible new clutch. Also will check the fuel tanks at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusFella Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Thx DS now out. Thx. Next job remove AC pump then ready to come out. I think I’ll try @Barrykearley ‘s method. Call to local friend with a teleported me thinks. thanks for all the help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espritv8black Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Chris, you are a champ takin on the project. Gets my mechanical blood going to fix some of my issues!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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