royz_garage Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Allthough I have a 3-11 and not an exige, I’m posting here because I’m very curious about tyre opinions and the exige is very much the same after all. my car is fitted with cup 2 and I have yet to experience them as I havent got to drive all that much yet, but on other cars they actually seemed rubbish. difficult to get heat in, low initial cold grip and not the best on track either. what is the current choice for a 90% road used car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 If you have a 410 or a 430 and presumably 420 only tyre choice is pretty much Cup 2’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Paul_D Posted January 25 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 25 I’ve actually been very impressed with the CUP2 tyres. Plenty of grip on the road, and really good with low wear rates on track. Obviously cold and wet conditions aren’t their strength, but they still felt ok driving to work in near freezing conditions. Unless I had a separate set of winter wheels, I don’t think I’d want to swap the CUP2’s for anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royz_garage Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Tex said: If you have a 410 or a 430 and presumably 420 only tyre choice is pretty much Cup 2’s Why is this? Is there nothing else on the market? Surely the new a052 yokohama is available in this size? 20 minutes ago, Paul_D said: I’ve actually been very impressed with the CUP2 tyres. Plenty of grip on the road, and really good with low wear rates on track. Obviously cold and wet conditions aren’t their strength, but they still felt ok driving to work in near freezing conditions. Unless I had a separate set of winter wheels, I don’t think I’d want to swap the CUP2’s for anything else. I dont care about wet and cold conditions as I dont drive the 3-11 (410) in those conditions. happy to hear cup 2’s work on a lotus. But I assume there are more options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Paul_D Posted January 25 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 25 I think the options are limited due to the sizes. The fronts are a relatively narrow higher profile tyre on a 17” wheel. The rears are very wide low profile on a an 18” wheel. That combination means there aren’t many models of tyre available in both sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 58 minutes ago, royz_garage said: Why is this? Is there nothing else on the market? Surely the new a052 yokohama is available in this size? I dont care about wet and cold conditions as I dont drive the 3-11 (410) in those conditions. happy to hear cup 2’s work on a lotus. But I assume there are more options? I’d be interested if you find any other OEM sized tyres as below 285/30/ZR18 97Y XL 215/45/ZR17 91Y 7.5J x 17 ET26 10J x 18 ET32 I spent time on this but to no avail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royz_garage Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 In the 3-11 group someone uses the federal rs pro and some use the trofeo. I have no idea which size they use but I assume the same as stock. also pss off course but thats a pure road tyre 3 hours ago, Tex said: I’d be interested if you find any other OEM sized tyres as below 285/30/ZR18 97Y XL 215/45/ZR17 91Y 7.5J x 17 ET26 10J x 18 ET32 I spent time on this but to no avail Ah i see if what you mean, the yoko’s have the fronts but the rear is 275 or 295, not the 285…I see the problem here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriouslylotus Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, royz_garage said: Why is this? Is there nothing else on the market? Surely the new a052 yokohama is available in this size? I dont care about wet and cold conditions as I dont drive the 3-11 (410) in those conditions. happy to hear cup 2’s work on a lotus. But I assume there are more options? a052 available in the correct 3Eleven sizes, I have a set on mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royz_garage Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 is it much better than the cup 2's? I have a worn set on the front that need replacing but there are brand new cup 2's on the rear, feels like a waste to change now, but an even bigger waste if cup2 is bad and have to switch with 4 practically new tyres on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Just priced up the Yokohama Advan AO52 in the above size except rears are 295 and they are almost twice the price of Cup 2’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royz_garage Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 For those who care, I ended up buying 2 fronts cup 2 as I havent driven either of the tires and I think it is a waste to not use the brand new rears. Also the a052 are more expensive rear, fronts where cheaper than cup 2, so with 4 tires it would be about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Standing Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 On 25/01/2022 at 18:00, Paul_D said: I’ve actually been very impressed with the CUP2 tyres. Plenty of grip on the road, and really good with low wear rates on track. Obviously cold and wet conditions aren’t their strength, but they still felt ok driving to work in near freezing conditions. Unless I had a separate set of winter wheels, I don’t think I’d want to swap the CUP2’s for anything else. Same here, very happy with the Cup 2's. I am running my 420 FE through the winter on dryish days, but inevitably in a rural area where I am some of the roads are greasy pretty much all the time. Exercise had to be cautioned with the right foot, but then I grew up in the late 60's on RWD cars with crap cross plies on, so nothing really new for me with a potentially tail happy car, takes me back to my youth 😁. When spring/summer/autumn comes back around, the Cup 2's will be awesome - just beware of standing water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royz_garage Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 Well I had my first damp and dry drive in my new 3-11 with new cup2’s at all 4 corners. Cant compare to an other tyre in this car but my reference is my Bac Mono and Ariel Atom. It was 7 degrees celcius, so just above freezing point. I expected there to be about zero grip and was very surprised to have a lot of grip on the front axle, virtually no understeer and in a straight line I was able to apply a lót of brake pressure without anyting locking up. with the ultra lights I’m used to, the fronts where always struggling to find any grip in cold and damp conditions. I think the size and weight of the car helps here. 3-11 is almost double the weight of Mono and Atoms, so ab bit difficult to compare, but with this experience I have no real reason to switch to an other tyre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrD Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 The struggle is real when it comes to sourcing cup2s these days so for road use I''ll opt for something like the assymetric 6 or PS4/5. Very good all around tyres for the road and cheaper. Quote https://www.youtube.com/user/fiestaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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