pete Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 Richard Littlejohn has his say on the new measures plus a few other things. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10437241/Bike-lane-Britain-Great-Leap-Backwards-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html 1 Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post Bling Posted January 26, 2022 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 What I think is crazy with the new highway code is the rule that even if there is a cycle lane present, the cyclist can still opt to cycle in the middle of the road !!! What is the purpose of all these expensive cycle lanes that have reduced or narrowed the car lanes? They have narrowed the car lanes to accommodate bicycles but then allow them to use the narrower lane. It is unfathomably stupid. It's like saying pedestrians don't have to walk on pavements but instead can choose to walk in the middle of the road 🤬 3 Quote Long time Lotus admirer, recent owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH Posted January 26, 2022 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bling said: It's like saying pedestrians don't have to walk on pavements but instead can choose to walk in the middle of the road Sometimes, as a pedestrian, I feel it is safer to walk on the road. That way I can avoid all the cyclists on the pavement! As an ex club and racing, and now social cyclist, for 40+ years I am thoroughly ashamed these days of the lack of manners, road awareness, and etiquette displayed by some (not all) cyclists who, when I am in a very good mood, I would conservatively describe as being "entitled twats"! 3 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 A few months ago I was walking with my teenage son, when we turned out of a passageway onto a roadside path. Just at that moment a cyclist on the path ran straight into my son. Even though the rider was only a teenager himself, I couldn’t stop myself shouting out “Get on the road, you f**king tw@t”. We then turned round to carry on our walk along the path only to see another teenager bearing down on us doing a bloody wheelie! He got both barrels as well. I only rode my bike on the pavement once when I was a kid. A policeman collared me and I never did it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 We usually walk most mornings, and have become fed up with cyclists on the path coming up from behind at speed, and not announcing their presence. I have on several occasions voiced my opinion when nearly being ran over by one of them, but it’s like holding back the tide. 1 Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted January 26, 2022 Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Bling said: What I think is crazy with the new highway code is the rule that even if there is a cycle lane present, the cyclist can still opt to cycle in the middle of the road !!! What is the purpose of all these expensive cycle lanes that have reduced or narrowed the car lanes? They have narrowed the car lanes to accommodate bicycles but then allow them to use the narrower lane. It is unfathomably stupid. It's like saying pedestrians don't have to walk on pavements but instead can choose to walk in the middle of the road 🤬 In some cases, a cyclist will keep pace with other traffic and so I get the point of them not using the cycle path where they are likely to come up pretty fast on slower cycles, and other times it's difficult to use a mandated cycle path (mandated that cars etc aren't allowed in it, not mandated cyclists must use it) because cars /lorries etc have parked in it. I'm sure that some of the problem is that we build cycle paths along side/ as part of the other part of the highway, but if the path is not next to a road then the danger of car Vs Cyclist collision is removed. We have a few near me where the old road has been closed and it's now a cycle path, works quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted January 26, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, andydclements said: some cases, a cyclist will keep pace with other traffic and so I get the point of them not using the cycle path where they are likely to come up pretty fast on slower cycles, and other times it's difficult to use a mandated cycle path (mandated that cars etc aren't allowed in it, not mandated cyclists must use it) because cars /lorries etc have parked in it. In my humble opinion these are just lame excuses used by entitled cyclists to justify their behaviour - it's not my fault its motorists! Riding on pavements. Ignoring pedestrians crossing the road even on zebra crossings. Ignoring red lights. Zooming past walkers with inches to spare on "shared" routes. Cycling the wrong way up one way streets. Undertaking taxis that have stopped to let out a passenger then complaining when they open the fooking door - er no shit sherlock! Cyclists need to get off their high horses and start showing that as a group they are responsible. As I said, many of them are just ignorant, entitled, twats and that's from someone who has been a cycling club member and BCF member for over 40 years! And yes, many motorists can be dicks too, but they don't have the indignant righteous of many cyclists and their publications/web sites. Road.CC and it's near miss of the day is laughable as many of them are actually the fault of the cyclist, but as ever, someone else is to blame. 2 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkieT Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 I think the one that gets me the most is a 5k fine and/or 9 points for flashing someone, particularly if its to warn them about a speed camera. Apparently preventing a crime being committed (ie speeding) is preventing the police from catching people doing a crime that hasn't occurred because the driver has been warned to slow down. Now i get that the perpetrators are likely to then carry on speeding after the camera and were probably speeding before the camera but really? It's also not good form to flash someone to let them out. I think this is all done on the pretext of preventing aggressive flashing on the motorways but the reality is it's another money spinner. It's a sad day when you wake up and realise the British really are scared little sheep that have sleep walked into a police state , you wouldn't get away with that crap in France. I feel better after that little rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 It's really akin to warning a mugger of an approaching police officer. For me, warning the person of a camera isn't good. Warning the driver of your presence because you believe the other drivers isn't fully aware of your presence and you base that on the fact they are speeding through a single track road and they are going to be very close/ impact your vehicle, that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post mayevora Posted January 29, 2022 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 5 Quote Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted January 29, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 10:44, MarkieT said: you wouldn't get away with that crap in France No they just confiscate your car off of you and hit you with a huge fine etc etc. 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jacques Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I'm afraid that is the ways of the new world, where motorists are banned and cyclists are welcomed, more so if they are on a 90 kilo heavy 2 children carrier box on 3 wheels and plus a great deal of luggage. No way of overtaking, no way they can brake if need be. Close to me, there is a side street that leads to the easiest and most environmentally friendly road to the freeway, off of Copenhagen. Now, there's a whole team of road workers spending gazillions of our hard earned tax money, which have closed the road connection, so everyone will have to find another way around that area. Upon asking what they are doing, I was told by their leader "well, the police wants us to help cyclists, with whom there's been some accidents". So, driving there (on bicycle) at least 6 times per day, I've never ever seen a single accident in my 27 years of passing by. At the same time I asked why the car line is made extremely narrow, when in fact there's plenty of space? "so we can control traffic", he replied. But why? I asked. "so we can irritate them (car drivers) enough to park the car and take the bicycle", was his honest answer. "so do you take your bicycle yourself? I asked. "Oh no, no way, I live south of Copenhagen, and I would never take the bicycle, I always take the car". Get the f..k out of my town, I replied and went on my way. Of course he pays 1/5'th for his big house and driving a big Mercedes, and he had clearly never been on a bicycle judging from his bodyshape and weight... They are a mafia traffic gang in Town Hall and their idiotic inconsiderate ME ME ME roadworkers and co-criminals. GGrrrr.... I spend most of my life on a bicycle to be free of cues and having no parking spaces for miles, and all I get is worse and worse conditions for everyone. While we spoke for those two minutes, I noticed 5 cars making an illegal u-turn, because the road has been blocked. I also noticed that local residents in that area have protested, but to NO avail. The criminal gang of politicians and the co-thieves are extreme and have taken power in my town. For example, the housing prices are so extreme here, that a house or a flat costs 3-5 times more than in the rest of the country, but this is where you can have a job, not in the country side. And the rest have since long moved to china. Everyone need to drive by car to Copenhagen. Trains and busses are an absolute joke, never working and being extremely slow. Who wants to spend 2-3 hours each way? I thought so. So, in their misunderstood to put it nicely, the local gang I mentioned before, removed 40.000 parking spaces from Copenhagen as well as making every single main into town a single lane, creating extreme cues and extreme frustration. And lot's and lot's of automatic speedcameras to catch those dangerous individuals who try to reach their job and have the absolute nerve to speed, going 52 km/h instead of the enforced 50 (or 40 km/h), making 2 km/h a CRIME! If I once ina while take the Esprit, I am constantly being waved at, asked questions and what not, usually while parked. So, the same people who express that they like the Esprit, are surprised when I tell them, that I drive it. You drive that dinosaur? For real? Oh well, .... I reply. Why don't you get a Tesla or another electric car, they ask. Because it's a piece of crap and pollutes far more than me in my 31 year old sportscar, driving 1500 km per year, I reply. My neighbour just sold his new electric car and got an old Scirocco instead. Why? No where to charge it. The only six places in that part of Copenhagen, are either defect of taken, every single day. Read that again: every single day. I tell you, there's a very real traffic mafia here in Copenhagen. And they are untouchable. I am on a bicycle every day since age 12, and I keep the law and show respect to everyone. Also when on a racebike in the freetime. I NEVER do like those half-brains. And if I am on the MTB, I show respect by keeping a distance, and braking for others, incl. people with loose dogs and what not. The way traffic is enforced in Denmark and more so Copenhagen, is extremely counterproductive to say the least. I tell you guys, the UK is a HEAVEN in comparison. EVEN if there are lot's of idiotic bicyclists... Kind regards, Jacques 1 Quote Nobody does it better - than Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Walking the dogs yesterday on the path by a main road and had two lycra clad cyclists ringinging their bells wanting me to to move over. Suffered a tirade of abuse when I carried on and they had to pass me on the grass whilst I was explaining they should have been on the road. No way of reporting them Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painterdave Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 I think it's time for a nice hi-viz with a registration number across the back to stop people breaking the law like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo73 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 31/01/2022 at 08:47, pete said: they had to pass me on the grass whilst I was explaining they should have been on the road. Are you sure that you weren't actually on a 'dual use' path at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted February 1, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Even if so, cyclists are supposed to slow down (which they don't) and just as you wouldn't expect a cyclist to "jump out of the way" for a car, cyclists should not expect someone to jump out of the way for them. However, often, for the force of entitlement in cyclists is so strong they feel that everyone and everything should clear their right of way and they have the right to block themselves anyone else. The sense of entitlement within cyclists has gotten so much that the sentiment from "others" is turning harder, and to be honest, cyclists only have themselves to blame and are far from always the "victim", sometimes, and I know this will shock some people, but cyclists are in the wrong! Edited February 1, 2022 by Bravo73 Removed unnecessary quote 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exeterjeep Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Police in Hackney catch 18 red light jumping cyclists in 90 minutes https://road.cc/content/news/police-catch-18-red-light-jumping-cyclists-90-minutes-289991?fbclid=IwAR0OGitcMpEfiwB6B6Ww5WhTwrGYIZGlEqjMVIltgeG-4zhjQUIiuf5_Ue0 The police’s action earned praise from some quarters, with one Twitter account – associated with a group opposed to Low Traffic Neighbourhoods – writing: “Good that this is finally being dealt with. So many cyclists jump red lights and then scream at cars and pedestrians.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Bravo73 said: Are you sure that you weren't actually on a 'dual use' path at the time? Definitely not on the other side of the road is the cycle track running parallel with the road. Sunday mornings on the country roads around here is going to be murder as the recreational cyclists were the worst before these new rules were introduced. Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exeterjeep Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 'Feckless' cyclist mocks new Highway Code rules by riding slowly and taking selfies https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/feckless-cyclist-mocks-new-highway-26150037?fbclid=IwAR15hptZgF3N3ZSZRAA7XQSBeXGEGDU7LvmxPn3T6tyJV1XpNDMR2I-LhBk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painterdave Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 -vis with registration plate on the back so you can warn or prosecute is people Needs HI vis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo73 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, exeterjeep said: 'Feckless' cyclist mocks new Highway Code rules by riding slowly and taking selfies What typically classic tabloid sensationalism. Do you think that bicycle rider is even aware of the Highway Code, let along the recently introduced new rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM C8RKH Posted February 6, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Hands up if this type of behaviour has really shocked you! Did anyone really think that after years of getting away with reckless riding, ignoring the highway code, etc that some cyclists would not take advantage to take the piss even more than usual? Funny how a motorist caught on camera doing a "close pass" is vilified by all cyclists. A cyclist being an entitled twat, riding with no hands, and silence from the cycling community! Only to be expected I guess. However, if I am in London or another city and I see a cyclist riding non handed like that, then fair warning to them now, I am going to step into the road and my trolley bag will take out their front wheel and they will be at fault under the new laws, not me and I do hope their dental bill is a large one. And I will sue for a new trolley bag! Twats need to be treated like twats. All that these changes have done is make some cyclists feel more entitled than ever and it will further fuel hostility between motorists and cyclists. What a great idea.... 1 1 Quote I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Bravo73 said: What typically classic tabloid sensationalism. Do you think that bicycle rider is even aware of the Highway Code, let along the recently introduced new rules? Really. He knew exactly what he was doing,including no need to ride in the cyclist only lane 1 1 Quote hindsight: the science that is never wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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