andydclements Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 I thought the Czech republic had only sent equipment not personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 You might be right. I didn't hear all of the report on the news. Question: We are aware that Putin is actively restricting access to media and social networks to keep his public thinking that his way is the best way. Either his frontline people such as ambassador to the UN etc are restricted to what they can access, which I find difficult to believe as the ambassador is not in Russia, or they just think that EVERY other media outlet in the world is lying. I wonder if Putin himself is restricted by the gag that he has enforced on everyone else in Russia? Either that or he simply believes his own rhetoric so completely that he also thinks that EVERY other media outlet in the world is lying as well. And if he is so blatant about not being able to be trusted, does the converse also hold true that he may be completely unpredictable? If he did step over the line and use anything nuclear, I wonder what the repercussions would be and how swift? Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 This has some very distressing images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 Interesting to read that the Ukrainians appear to have destroyed the guided missile cruiser Moskva with their own domestically developed land-based missiles. That’s a bit a game changer with regards to Russia’s naval ambitions in the South. Let’s hope the Ukrainians have plenty of missiles in reserve to keep the Russian navy at arm’s length. The Russians will be going all out to find and destroy them. It was 40 years ago when the Argentinians attacked our task force with Exocets: it was really only their lack of inventory and espionage efforts to stop re-supply from France that saved us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Well if the Movska has been completely evacuated, Ukraine should either salvage it and claim ownership as it has been deserted, or send a crew out and sink it completely. Or better still, start it running toward the rest of Russia’s fleet with timed charges to go off once it is real close. ”We were just trying to be nice and giving you your ship back Mr. Pootin. We have no idea what caused the massive explosion.” 2 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 USA have committed another $800m in weapons etc. I thought the news initially said that Russia only had enough ammo to last 10 days but here we are on day 50... Surely this is becoming attritional and they'll run out of troops/tanks/missiles etc soon and Ukraine have a very steady supply of cutting edge hardware on their side? Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM DaveC72 Posted April 14 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Bibs said: USA have committed another $800m in weapons etc. I thought the news initially said that Russia only had enough ammo to last 10 days but here we are on day 50... Surely this is becoming attritional and they'll run out of troops/tanks/missiles etc soon and Ukraine have a very steady supply of cutting edge hardware on their side? Historically, a lack of materiel has never stopped the Russians... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Here’s another thought. Go out to the Movska and fire all of its missiles at the Kremlin. ”Oops. Slipped.” And then do one of the aforementioned options. 1 Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM TdM Posted April 14 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 14 I have a feeling there isn't much of the Movska left to do any firing. Russia are trying to spin it as an accident but there is no way they can come out of this situation without being embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 I wonder if there are any satellite images of it? Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM TdM Posted April 14 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 14 I've been keeping an eye out and it doesn't look like it at the moment. From the weather satellite it looks like there is a clearer patch around the area although still a lot of cloud about. We might get something later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisJ Posted April 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 14 Ukrainian stamp - same ship 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bibs Posted April 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 14 Quote Maksym Marchenko, governor of the region around the Black Sea port of Odesa, said: “It has been confirmed that the missile cruiser Moskva today went exactly where it was sent by our border guards on Snake Island!” 1 3 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChrisJ Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Tom & Jerry at the Russian Embassy in Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusLeftLotusRight Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 The Moskva has sunk: confirmed by Russians, whilst attempting to tow it back to port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Oooo. That’s going to smart. Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 100th_Idiot Posted April 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 14 Pesky farmers 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM TdM Posted April 15 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 15 Apparently, it 'lost its balance' in high seas whilst being towed after a small fire that was under control. Translation: hit by two Ukrainian missiles, blew up and sunk where it was whilst Russia tried to work out if they could cover it up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post C8RKH Posted April 15 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted April 15 On 07/04/2022 at 14:53, bogle said: We thankfully live in the "free" world as opposed to the controlled and policed world of authoritarians. If we were in Moscow protesting or writing these ideas, we would be imprisoned for 10 years. That is debatable and entirely dependent on where you live in the US. Your social standing, the colour of your skin, your ethnicity etc. Slaves may have been freed but in many places the prejudices are still rife and overt and I believe many would argue they are still struggling to be set free. However I detract from Ukraine. Re Biden, he may not be senile, but his faux pars, or to use your parlance his showing of feelings make him look and sound weak, confused, and dithery. Not necessarily a great response and in my very humble view not one that has inspired confidence to date However, despite his heroic visit to Ukraine our own Boris does not inspire confidence. Macron is a weasel who will scour the undergrowth to find anything to feed on and I can't even recall the name of the German Leader. The US does not have a monopoly on bad leaders for sure. I fear that with the loss of face through the sinking of the Mosska a desperate retaliatory response may come. I for one think the West needs to stop all trade, including gas and oil, with Russia now with only one condition to restart it - the complete withdrawal of all Russian troops and military equipment from Ukrainian soil. A simple. A solid. A single, united message from all in the West. 2 2 Quote Alcohol. Sex. Tobacco. Drugs. Chocolate. Meh! NOTHING in this world is as addictive as an Evora +0. It's not for babies! The first guy to ride a bull for fun, was a true hero. The second man to follow him was truly nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM MJON Posted April 15 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 15 “The Moskva was equipped with a triple-tiered air defence system that if operating properly should have given it three opportunities to defend itself from a Neptune missile attack”. OOPS❗️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painterdave Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 The moskva is as old as my lotus excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Escape Posted April 15 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, Painterdave said: The moskva is as old as my lotus excel I'm sure your Excel is in much better shape! 😉 My Excel was also first registered in 1983 (but not built in 1979) Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andydclements Posted April 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 15 Well, his Excel hasn't sunk, so on that basis even my project Excel is in better shape. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Painterdave Posted April 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 15 The lotus dry s out in the summer 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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