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My 400 which is the highest kilometer/mile age car I am aware of in Australia at 70,000. ks ( approx 43,000 mile)

Pre empting the comment about driving style, yes it's life is how its driven etc..

Mine has a combination of mostly free way and and what I know of 3 full track days.

My question is as the 400 clutch was a significance up upgrade to the S, who has changed a clutch on a 4xx and after what distance and what sort of use?

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14 minutes ago, Bravo73 said:

@DaveC72, how many miles has your 400 got on it? Any clutch issues so far?

 

43,500. no issues so far. Basic use description is mainly freeway and three full track days.

I am thinking of starting a survey for people to get some idea of clutch.

 

 

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I think this thread a bit pointless.  Clutches on 400 are not a problem. Or S or the majority of pre-S cars. Yes, a bit labour intensive when required so the cost is more than your average car but the Evora ain't an average car. 

What next? 'Evora 400 carpet wear'?

Justin 

 

 

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Fair comment, I take the OEM mats out and replace them with outer for the time being,

And as for the cost it is very much dependant an on your finances and being a retiree I need to keep track of them.

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10 hours ago, au-yt said:

 

43,500. no issues so far. Basic use description is mainly freeway and three full track days.

I am thinking of starting a survey for people to get some idea of clutch.

 

 

No need it’s already been done:

 

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Given my bad luck with starter motors and oil sump you just can’t predict how an item wears out rate ?

I think you need to keep a little pot of money in case or have a warranty cover if possible 

trying to work out if an item wears or fails is a finger in the air as I have learnt over past 4 years of ownership and I think this will apply to any car brand or type ? 

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If you can run a rare sports car for under £2,000 per annum averaged over, say, 5 years excluding depreciation/fuel, you are doing very well - assuming it is actually used for at least 4,000+ miles pa. 

I keep a spreadsheet of every penny spent on servicing of all my cars. As a general rule, £3k pa should be enough over an extended period to run a Lotus. Sometimes, you spend very little as my 2010 Evora was for 3 years, then a wallop of £8k with gearbox repair and very little since. 

Exige I spent nothing but only owned for 8 months, 3000 miles, 7 years old. 

I bought a S1 Elise in 2018 with FSH, 55,000 miles, it cost £5k in repairs in the first 2000 miles. Very little since. 

Of course this is very general, the main point being, don't expect to run a Lotus for a few hundred £ pa. Allowing a sensible budget and preparing for it will mean you will enjoy the ownership experience all the more. And Lotus over 4 years old have glacial depreciation even as the mileage racks up.

What a useful thread 😅 

Justin 

 

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Had the car serviced today and a long chat about the clutch and their comment was after a exam and drive test , don’t worry about it and from trying a 410 this morning I would estimate it’s a bit over 50% worn.
Service cost wise my 400 here in Sydney been the same as a very much the same as my other cars.

I didn’t think the cost of the clutch kit was too bad as I found out it’s made by AP.

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I don't understand how you can estimate the clutch wear in a hydraulic system. Surely the hydraulic hides the clutch plate movement as it wears.

 

 

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As I said it’s just an estimate. Make that a gestimate. 
Discussions with the tech,s  the weight  of a newish clutch the cars previous use and IF it lasts 60,000 miles. 

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On 10/03/2022 at 10:45, jep said:

If you can run a rare sports car for under £2,000 per annum averaged over, say, 5 years excluding depreciation/fuel, you are doing very well - assuming it is actually used for at least 4,000+ miles pa. 

I keep a spreadsheet of every penny spent on servicing of all my cars. As a general rule, £3k pa should be enough over an extended period to run a Lotus. Sometimes, you spend very little as my 2010 Evora was for 3 years, then a wallop of £8k with gearbox repair and very little since. 

Exige I spent nothing but only owned for 8 months, 3000 miles, 7 years old. 

I bought a S1 Elise in 2018 with FSH, 55,000 miles, it cost £5k in repairs in the first 2000 miles. Very little since. 

Of course this is very general, the main point being, don't expect to run a Lotus for a few hundred £ pa. Allowing a sensible budget and preparing for it will mean you will enjoy the ownership experience all the more. And Lotus over 4 years old have glacial depreciation even as the mileage racks up.

What a useful thread 😅 

Justin 

 

I knew I wasn't the only person who keeps a spreadsheet. I now have evidence for friends and family 🤣

So far, 12 years and 47k miles and here is the summary of expenditure, which I think is pretty reasonable tbh...

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Running expenses are very reasonable for 12 years, though if the car was new, I would expect very little in the first 4 to 6 years, as warranty will cover big bills and it would be very unlucky to have a large bill before 6 years in my experience. 

I bought an 8 year old Clio RS200, low mileage. Owned for 2 years, 16,000 miles, lived outside, servicing was under £500. You can get lucky at times and I sold it for only £1,000 less than price paid (from a dealer with warranty).

It is mandatory to have a spreadsheet for Excel (Lotus).

Justin

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Just had my 400 serviced and told the clutch is heavy and to be fair it is.  only done 31k, what generally happens? Does the clutch actually fail? Thinking that I will use it through the season and do something over the winter.

 

also had a P2602 coolant pump circuit fault.  They said they couldn't clear it but after I started it the spanner went out and on arriving home no codes in my AutoPhix OM126p reader.  Could it be the reader cannot see the errors?

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