Popular Post Cliffords Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just an official hello , I posted when looking at quite a sad Eclat local to me and now its back at my house .I am semi retired and along with my son an engineer in motorsport , with and without his help I have built kits and restored cars for 30 years as a hobby and when time and money allows . I now have a non running Eclat back at my house . It has sat in a garage for the last 6 years and has no history at all. We spent all day on Saturday looking over the car , the chassis is remarkably good , even at the top as far as we can see with good lights . We freed the doors that were stuck and turned the engine over by hand . Then the fun stopped as it wont turn very far before it comes to a hard stop. Looks like valves are stuck , so its engine out next for a rebuild, always the plan , but we did want to do a compression check first before we did . Its a 1983 2.2 , and to my surprise has rear discs at the wheel, I had read about inboard brakes , so a nice surprise. Oh and it has no drivers side window but I think I have found one . So the adventure begins and so will the questions . The first being does anyone have any knowledge of the cars history ? I did an HPI and can see on line detail but it would be good to know if there is any ownership history known. The registration is : ONP 298Y Thanks David 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post exeterjeep Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 This is an early excel, badged as eclat to save Lotus from going through the lengthy process of getting a new car model type approved. The wedge shaped elite/eclat did have inboard drums, but the excel used a load of parts from Toyota to improve the car - eg the gearbox. Later cars did get excel badges but even my 1990 car had eclat on the V5. Have fun, good to see that one may make it back on the road, in a few weeks/months etc.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Blanchard Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 Good luck with the resto. 57 minutes ago, exeterjeep said: to save Lotus from going through the lengthy process of getting a new car model type approved. Interesting info Keith. Always wondered why they were called Eclat Excels. I remember when these were new, thinking they looked very exotic. 1 Quote Mark www.lotusespritturbo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTUSMAN33 Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 Nice, big fan of the early Excel and the one I would buy if getting another in the future. Heres the original brochure for it.. 1 Quote Do or do not, there is no try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 well done on taking that one on. I've seen it advertised quite a lot over the past few years - mostly on facebook marketplace. As mentioend above, its an early narrow body excel. Chassis is fully galvanised form new so shouldnt offer problems. Brakes are from a toyota celica so disks all round. Brakes are also shiiiiite (used to own one). As it is a light car there is a pressure differential valve that limits braking force to the rear discs to prevent lock up. Think of it as similar to the old load compensating valve on the rear axle that cuts the brakes when the axle hops, only without the braking force at the start... Diff, gearbox, brakes are all toyota sourced RA61 celica, and well proven. Engine is the normal 912 2.2 lotus unit with iron liners (sometimes referred to as LC as in not being the high compression model of the SE and SA) despite the engine not being particularly low compression. When in good order the car can be quite brisk, if not fast by modern standards. They do drive quite well, although I never got on with the power steering in mine, preferring the manual rack of my eclat. I also found the suspension to be shorter travel with harder springs compared to the long travel, firm damping of an eclat. They do drive quite differently despite their visual similarities. Both have their fanboys - which one you prefer is up to personal preference. Well done for saving it. Invest in a borescope from ebay for diagnosis - best 40 quid you will ever spend. If its just a bit stiff from standing, a combination of thin oil and redex pooled on top of the pistons, left a few days, then turned a little bit more each time with the crank nut and a bar (don't use excessive force) can free them up. I had similar symptoms once on a dolomite sprint, and it freed off without the need for cam/head removal.. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 heres a link to my project on a similar car (8 year slumber) if you fancy a laugh/inspiration: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exeterjeep Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dunc said: although I never got on with the power steering in mine, preferring the manual rack of my eclat 2 of my elite/eclats had a manual rack, it was hard work at parking speeds, the rest had power. I believe that all excels had power steering, although it was listed as an option - I think it was a 'required' option. (from discussions I had with London lotus many years ago..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, exeterjeep said: it was hard work at parking speeds makes a man of you Keith ! 😃 I have a power rack in the garage which was on the list to re-install, but after the excel - I'm leaving it as unassisted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 👍 Really cool car David, good luck with the resto. And welcome to TLF. Quote Ad initium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Welcome to TLF David. Best of luck with the restoration. Any questions or issues with using the forums, feel free to ask one of us mods. We're here to help. Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Escape Posted March 23, 2022 Moderator Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Congratulations David! Glad to read another one is being saved. She looks just like mine, in Ice Blue. Don't hesitate to ask if you need any info, plenty to be found here. I can agree with Duncan the power steering can be annoying. I've (briefly) looked into fitting a manual rack, but it was too much hassle, especially as I don't plan to keep the car. I've been using her as a daily at the moment and do enjoy that a lot! Best of luck, Filip Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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