Gold FFM skiing Posted June 5, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Well some of you may have read about my little, um, incident with my S3’s high compression engine… I am now in need of a replacement cam carrier or cam box for the exhaust side. And also ideally a cam shaft as well… cam carrier / box is the most necessary. This is the later cam box design. If anyone can help so I can get my baby back on the road, please get in touch! Thanks so much, Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM skiing Posted June 8, 2022 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Nudging on this one - surely someone must have one squirreled away in their 'secret Esprit parts stash'... will go to a very good home... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCEL V8 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 There new remanufactured ones for sale on fleabay - item number 284658200665. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM skiing Posted June 9, 2022 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Thank you Peter, I saw these - rather steep on cost so I was hoping for originals but if nothing else is available I might have to take the plunge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Have you already tried Lotusbits @skiing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM skiing Posted June 9, 2022 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 They don't seem to have any either and are also re-making - I think I will have to most likely go down that route but as ever I feel there is a slightly higher risk of having to fettle parts to get them to fit when they are not original... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I'll have a look in thee shed (those who have seen it will understand how thee lack of organisation may impact thee outcome), I know I have some but are part of a refurbished engine so I'm unlikely to part with those, but you never know there may be others (Mike Taylor was asking me for any Excel gearboxes I may have, that gives an idea of the shed's contents). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 The cam carriers on eBay look really sexy. And the price is keen for a pair. To my eyes anyway because there’s a lot involved in the manufacture. Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 9, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 See, now I want to fit sexy ones. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I have ventured into the shed and managed to return, but not found any cam carriers, but also not found the complete engine that I thought was in there. next I will check the pit of the garage (I mean the inspection pit that is situated in the floor of the garage, yes the garage is a mess and so could be called a pit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 9, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Maybe the engine is on top of a car? 😇 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 That would save floor space, although that car is no longer in my possession. Ah, sugar, I do have lots of stuff (mainly lotus seats) on top of the Europa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 9, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 Hehehe, I knew it. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
910Esprit Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 As a temporary solution, could you just fit one of the earlier type until an HC item turns up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 9, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 I'm already in therapy. 1 1 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM skiing Posted June 10, 2022 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Thank you so much for looking Andy - it is very much appreciated - I would like to see this cave of lotus delights on day - let me know if anything does turn up!... And yes, I am already funding a special new therapy course for Sparky entitled 'Deviations from Lotus factory specification - a metaphysical exploration'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, skiing said: Thank you so much for looking Andy - it is very much appreciated - I would like to see this cave of lotus delights on day - let me know if anything does turn up!... And yes, I am already funding a special new therapy course for Sparky entitled 'Deviations from Lotus factory specification - a metaphysical exploration'. Or to give it its working title, "Sparky in Wonderland". Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 10, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Currently, everything's making me smaller. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailorbob Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Is the cam carrier truly beyond repair? White metalling / cold metal spraying and machining can save many parts that would normally get scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Looking at the photos from May 23rd I'd say they would need a lot of work but if they're free of cracking etc then that may be the most cost effective solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 10, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Well, nothing's truly beyond repair if you throw enough (of somebody else's) money at it. I would say the cheapest option is to find a good used one, but failing that... Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 10+ years ago I'd have not considered repairing it, given the cost of repair vs the cost of a readily-available serviceable used one. Given the apparent lack of serviceable ones / high cost of a new one, it does seem to be swinging the other way. We had the same on Excel door frames, it was just swap out for decent used ones and skip the rusted on, then supply tightened and it was worth cutting and putting in new metal, then it was worth taking 3 scrap ones to weld into one viable unit, now brand new ones for £300+ is an option and so cheaper than paying a professional to try and piece bits together. The cam carriers seems to be in that middle stage where lots of time and money needs to be spent on repair. I did wonder whether it's nearing the stage of buying a viable whole engine (seen one local to me for £2.5k but it's LC) and recouping some of the cost by selling on the parts of the old engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM skiing Posted June 10, 2022 Author Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Whole engine might be a route - I am waiting to hear about what is needed for sure and whether I need to help sourcing parts - I know that a cam carrier is needed for sure, hence the start of my search for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted June 10, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 As @sailorbobsaid, the carrier is not necessarily a total loss; it's just a toss-up on cost of repair. No doubt we'll find out from Max... Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 I suspect those carriers could be uneconomic to repair. But there’s only one way to find out and that’s to trawl around for companies that would do that kind of metal restoration work, as it seems that thus far, the secondhand market hasn’t turned up any spare units. Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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