Which Eletre model

[Frickin_idiot]

On 13/02/2023 at 20:54, C8RKH said:

Porsche customer service has had a lot of experience with the Taycan, from what I have heard, so I would expect them to be good at it by now. Pleased your happy with yours though, and your dealer, as a good dealer, whatever the marque, makes a hell of a difference to the ownership experience.

So you've needed a new motor already? Wow. Sort of puts the Emira niggles in the shade really.

Dealerships are massively important, availability and quality being the prime two factors. Fingers and toes crossed that Lotus address the chronic dealer issues shortly.

[exeterjeep]

1 hour ago, Frickin_idiot said:

Fingers and toes crossed that Lotus address the chronic dealer issues shortly.

They will certainly need more service/sales capacity when (hopefully) the 132/133/134 are actually being made/delivered/serviced..

[Kimbers]

Electric cars really don't need much in the way of service and TBH many of the dealers in the UK are large enough to cope with Volume, JCT600, Hendy Group etc.

[exeterjeep]

59 minutes ago, Kimbers said:

Electric cars really don't need much in the way of service

Think a number of MG4 EV owners would not agree. May not be servicing exactly but., many seem to spend weeks in dealers getting fixed / waiting parts. Lotus need to make sure that the Eletre gets much better support otherwise a business or even private owner would go back to what they had before.

[Kimbers]

10 minutes ago, exeterjeep said:

Think a number of MG4 EV owners would not agree. May not be servicing exactly but., many seem to spend weeks in dealers getting fixed / waiting parts. Lotus need to make sure that the Eletre gets much better support otherwise a business or even private owner would go back to what they had before.

I run over 10,000 cars mate. Know all the pitfalls etc. But its not the dealers fault on Electric cars. There just isn't the infrastructure in place to make the replacement parts across all brands. Most battery replacements have 18 month lead times. It's partly why you see so many electric cars being built into a saturated market where they can't sell any of them, because they ordered the parts to make the cars 18 months ago so they have to build them!

Also, all car parts are difficult right now, to get hold of. We had a Kia Sportage off the road for 6 months waiting for a replacement windscreen. VW Golfs off the road for electrical parts for 4 months etc etc.

Lotus should IMHO be looking at their Policy of changing to all Electric and making the changes many others are secretly doing, while stating they "intend to go electric" when what they mean is go a mix of Electric Hybrid and PHEV

[C8RKH]

If they ordered the parts 18 months ago, and can't sell the cars, then why not divert some of the parts destined for new cars that are going to sit unsold to spares so existing cars can continue to run?

Also, the main problem with EV's and PHEV's is that the battery tech and design is changing very quickly, so obsolescence kicks in and when a couple of cells go you end up needing a new complete battery platform at a cost of £12-20k as opposed to a couple of cells, as you just can't get the cells. Porsche has this problem with the PHEV Panamera's I believe meaning some 4/5 year old cars with a value of say £40k are essentially written off due to the cost of battery pack replacements. Very green and environmentally friendly that...

We used to try to build things to last. Today, we build everything to be a consumable and thrown away, and then complain we have to deal with the waste. Our forebears knew much more than we do.