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Let me start by saying I’m obviously well aware of the world situation causing this, but the supply situation seems, if anything, to be getting worse. 

Back in April, I ordered an E Class estate with an anticipated delivery at the end of this year. Then in August I received an email from MB telling me that due to ongoing supply difficulties, I was now looking at Q1/Q2 of next year. Ok, I thought, not a massive problem and I obviously know the reasons behind it all. 

Then last week I received another email telling me they could no longer supply a car to my spec, so they have cancelled the order and could I call them so they can refund my deposit on to my card. No suggestion of maybe changing my spec or even looking at a different car, just an ‘It’s cancelled and here’s your money back!’ 🤷‍♂️

I wonder when/if things will improve. Maybe when somebody can poison Putin or cause him to fall off a balcony??? 🤔

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MB did this to a friend of mine during COVID for his company car, all they said they could do was supply a car of lesser spec for more money. It was on order before COVID, then waylayed because of COVID and then canceled. He didn't seem to have a problem getting a BMW instead.

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I ordered two new cars in June this year 

  • Kia Niro HEV, arrived in country in July
  • Mazda 6 Tourer, arrived in start of this month, pick up next week - as I can't drive right now.

I think that for the Kia, most people are ordering EV or PHEV, and our car was already on a boat, so lucked out there. Have heard that there is 12 months delivery on the Sportage.

The Mazda was initially should be sometime in or after October - and had not received an update when was told that it had arrived when we collected the Kia on 2/9 - same dealer for both. I think that it is very model dependent - the salesman couldn't remember last time he had sold a Mazda 6 and there was a lot of umming around the expected delivery date, so I think we were both surprised it came when it did, maybe that very few ordered, again played out well.

 

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Maybe Korean and Japanese built cars aren’t so affected by the shortages. I guess I can understand why some German cars are affected, given their dependence on Russian gas supplies and the fact many components were sourced from Ukraine. 

Before ordering the E Class, I tried a 5 series, which I thought overly blingy, and an A6 which just seemed sluggish.  Yesterday I tried a Volvo V90, which I liked, so have ordered that, albeit on a 10-12 month delivery. It’s about time I had a change from German anyway!

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I just bought second hand in the end - E Cabriolet. 1 private owner from new. 3 years old. 2 year warranty. Only 18k miles and half the price of new.....! Depreciation free motoring really for the next 3 years.

I really do not see the point buying new anymore. You might as well just use £100-£200 a week in used bank notes to start your BBQ or fire. Absurd loss/use of cash.

 

I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. 

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@Spinney I am grateful for people who buy new, I'm just personally not prepared to spunk a load of cash on depreciation any more. There will always be people buying new which means I'll always get a bargain :)

I bought my Evora 410 brand new. I don't regret it at all as like you, I bought for the long term, and it was my ideal spec.

I'll buy new again, but only for another special car I will keep long term. Everything else, I will buy used and save tens of thousands (to pay for the special cars hehehehehe)

 

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I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. 

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4 hours ago, C8RKH said:

@Spinney I am grateful for people who buy new, I'm just personally not prepared to spunk a load of cash on depreciation any more. There will always be people buying new which means I'll always get a bargain :)

Ach you’re just an old cheapskate, I can see why you live in Scotland!😉😂

All joking aside, I can understand why folk would rather buy used and for the first 55 years of my life I always did the same. Now, however, I’m in a completely different place in my life and, for me, there’s nowt quite like that aroma of new leather in a car to give me a rare thrill! It’s a bit like that old joke of why do blokes like girls in leather trousers? Because it reminds them of a new car! 

Actually, forget that, as old as I am I just love to see girls in leather trousers. 🤦😂

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@C8RKH - I'm sort of with you on this, however, I'm also with @Spinney

My last 2nd hand car was an excellent (2011) Peugeot 3008, until it wasn't !!!!!

I ended spending about £5k on repairs over an 18-month period. 1 injector in Slovenia, 3 more injectors 6 months later back in the UK, then rear nearside suspension went on the blink - you have to replace both sides, after that I said, "right, no more expense, this gets run into the ground, hopefully get 3-5 years."

6 months later (Apr 2019), the engine went bang - same engine that is in a Mini, so not French. Sold it for £350 was not spending another penny on it. The Polish guy I sold it to fixed it, and it was up for sale a couple of months later for £3k - good for him.

Decided no more 2nd hand cars for the moment (I have 2 30+-year-old Lotus as well :thumbsup: - both bought 2nd hand)

I then leased a new Mazda 6 for £187 a month for 3 years. As leases have now become ridiculously expensive - exactly the same car is £460/month), collect a new Mazda 6 next Saturday. Will be interested to see what my current car goes for.

Wife's car, Peugeot 107 (2010 model) - really good car for around town, also goes up to 87 mph, according to the speeding ticket my wife received :thumbup:. Started to get expensive (£1k) repairs early 2019, decided I can't be arsed with this, bought a new Mazda 2 on PCP (never done this before). No issues with it over the past 3 years, Balloon was £5.9k, WBAC offered £12k. We now have new Kia Niro on the drive. I have told her that we won't be changing for at least 5 years.

Daughter, currently 17 (18 in Oct), test in November :driving:, she will not be getting a new car :)

She wants an Austin 1100/1300, a mini (original) or a Land Rover (original) as her first car.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, ChrisJ said:

She wants an Austin 1100/1300, a mini (original) or a Land Rover (original) as her first car

Fantastic. Austin 1100/1300 are very under-rated. My first car was a £75 one in 1984. I bought a 1300GT for £1200 in 2003, a cheap Mini Cooper.

My only concern nowadays with original Mini or Austin 1100 is, as an everyday car, they are not strong if hit by a modern. 

Justin

 

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I really wanted to buy an Austin 1100/1300 as my first car, can't remember why I didn't, I ended up with a 1600L (rust bucket) Capri for 2 years, before buying a 1984 Ford Escort 1.3L brand new.

She will be buying it (not me), so I have told her the pros and cons of newer vs classic, and it will be her choice. Personally, I'm OK with her going the classic route.

 

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22 minutes ago, jep said:

My only concern nowadays with original Mini or Austin 1100 is, as an everyday car, they are not strong if hit by a modern

Fully agree, but the same issue with modern small cars too. My neighbours two kids were stopped in outside lane of dual carriageway as roadworks convoy system in operation, in a small Toyota Yaris. Texting van driver ploughed into the back of them at 60mph. Absolute carnage and 6 months in hospital for both, the son took 19 months to recover fully. I made sure my kids had something a bit more substantial around them. 

I came into this world screaming and covered in someone elses blood. I'll probably leave it in the same way. 

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These are difficult times for sure for anybody wanting/needing a replacement car. Used prices of cars that are available are way too high and for youngsters just passing their test, I can’t see much alternative to the old and possibly unsafe bangers. That was fine for oldies like me who could fettle their own cars but I’d wager most kids now wouldn’t know where to start, even if they own the tools. 

Being born when I was, I think I may have already seen the best of times as far as motoring is concerned. 

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