GreenGoddess Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I was working on my car yesterday and noticed that this suspension bush at the left rear wheel was all chewed up (see photos). Question 1: Is it easy to change without springs and parts flying everywhere? Question 2: What is this bush called so that I know which part to order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Popular Post jonwat Posted October 17, 2022 Solution Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, GreenGoddess said: Question 1: Is it easy to change without springs and parts flying everywhere? No, read this before you start You've already done the only easy job on an Esprit, that was handing over the cheque the day you bought it Edited October 17, 2022 by jonwat 2 2 1 Quote Cheers, John W http://jonwatkins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekwan Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 BEWARE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGoddess Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Holy moly!!! I'm pleased I asked. Looks like an absolute nightmare of a job! In that case I will take it to a Lotus specialist. I am guessing that it will also be an MOT failure, am I correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted October 17, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Technically a failure, but testers often miss these as even in that state they tend not to demonstrate excessive play. That job's a particular challenging favourite of mine! And it would be sensible to replace the lot of them - top/bottom, inner/outer - whilst there. Don't even think of giving it to anywhere that hasn't done them before. 2 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekwan Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenGoddess said: Holy moly!!! I'm pleased I asked. Looks like an absolute nightmare of a job! In that case I will take it to a Lotus specialist. I am guessing that it will also be an MOT failure, am I correct? Nightmare or Dream is a matter of luck as to whether the split collar is seize into the carrier arm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ekwan said: Nightmare or Dream is a matter of luck as to whether the split collar is seize into the carrier arm. Which it will be. 1 Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted October 17, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Yeah, I'd bet the farm on it from that pic. Plenty of patience and expletives... 1 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGoddess Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Chillidoggy said: Which it will be. Is the damaged bushing an MOT failure? My car is due its MOT in mid-December and I can't get to a Lotus specialist until Jan/Feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidoggy Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 That would be up to the MOT tester, but I’d hazard a guess that it would be. 1 Quote Margate Exotics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted October 17, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 And if you're not doing it yourself, you may need to sell a major organ... 2 1 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGoddess Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 51 minutes ago, Sparky said: And if you're not doing it yourself, you may need to sell a major organ... Ugh, I guess I can say goodbye to one of my kidneys then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Popular Post Sparky Posted October 17, 2022 Gold FFM Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Well, unless you want both sides done. 7 Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAR Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 The real issue stems from the lack of available spare rear hubs should you crack one trying to remove the stud and split spacer. Corrosion can weld the stud, bush and hub together and require very judicious methods of removal. As others have said, only give the job to someone you absolutely trust. 2 Quote It's getting there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowrx Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Start soaking the assemblies in the best penetrating oil you can get now while you plan the replacement. Reassemble with a good anti-seize compound to help the next guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGoddess Posted October 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, snowrx said: Start soaking the assemblies in the best penetrating oil you can get now while you plan the replacement. Reassemble with a good anti-seize compound to help the next guy. 👍 You can count on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Escape Posted October 19, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 17/10/2022 at 23:24, TAR said: As others have said, only give the job to someone you absolutely trust. Which means: wait for @Sparky to have full vision again and is aching to get his hands dirty on an Esprit again. 😉 2 Quote I have made many mistakes in my life. Buying a multiple Lotus is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted October 19, 2022 Gold FFM Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Ocular mayhem continues (will post about that elsewhere), but I may be back on the horse in a couple of weeks. Of course there's a queue to deal with, and TBH apart from a couple of critical ones I'll be hanging up me spanners for the winter! I do love that particular challenge though. (Way too far south, anyhow) Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 910Esprit Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 I'd consider removing the whole upright with link attached (which is actually pretty straightforward) and take the assembly to someone like PNM in Wallasey (Merseyside) for him to remove it for you. I would image that could be done before January. And you would presumably save some money on disassembly/assembly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaman Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Is the bolt stuck in the carrier a UK salt corrosion issue? when I removed mine they just pulled out by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi42 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Replaced mine with a poly bush kit cut the long stud either side of the link arm so that the aluminium hub could be supported when being pushed out on a hydraulic press. 2 new studs are a lot cheaper than 2 hubs deffo an MOT fail , my s2 got advisories during an MOT because of excess movement in rear upper suspension arm rubber bushes . s2’s don’t have them !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwat Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 4 hours ago, omegaman said: when I removed mine they just pulled out by hand. Probably been recently removed by previous owner, hope you smothered them in grease when you reassembled them. If not, I'd get them back out & do it soon 1 Quote Cheers, John W http://jonwatkins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andyww Posted October 30, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 IMHO the risks with these dont end when you have got the stud out the casting. After that if you replace the sliding spacer with new, when you tighten the nut up the spacer has to slide within the casting hole to end up hard against the lower link bush. The ones SJ supply are far too tight and I would think that there is a risk of the casting cracking when tightening up, instead of the spacer sliding in. I spent ages recently fettling the hole and the spacer so it was a tight push fit rather than being absolutely solid and pretty much needing a press to fit it, which defeats the whole purpose of the spacer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaman Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 14:13, jonwat said: Probably been recently removed by previous owner, hope you smothered them in grease when you reassembled them. If not, I'd get them back out & do it soon The car hadn’t been touched in at least 30 years 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwat Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, omegaman said: The car hadn’t been touched in at least 30 years 😊 Must have been very well greased when last assembled then Quote Cheers, John W http://jonwatkins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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