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After the meet at the weekend I noticed that I seem to be the only Stevens not running CX door mirrors. Mine seem to look very wimpy, not sure what they are from, but I have a quite early Stevens. Anyway is it a simple job to replace?

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I swapped mine several years ago, and it's not a massive job.

Luckily, the plinths that the new mirrors go on, are bigger than the old 'footprint' which means they'll cover the dent in the paint that you will have when you take the old ones off.

The only issue you'll have is the wiring, as it's different on the later mirrors.

I didn't bother wiring them, and I just move them manually when I need to.. which to be honest, once they're set, is never!

You'll need to get a pair of Citroen CX Wing mirrors, the proper lotus mounting plinths, the rubber gasket and also the nut that goes on the back of the mirror as it's different on the Lotus to get inside the plinth thing. There is also a special tool to tighten the nut up, as it's like a ring. A pair of needle nose pliers may do it though.

Then you just need to get the whole lot painted, and mount them to your doors! The existing holes are in slightly the wrong place, so you'll need to make new ones. But it's all covered up by the plinths.

If you have the parts CD, all the bits are on there. If not, let me know and I'll give you the part numbers.

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You'll need to get a pair of Citroen CX Wing mirrors, the proper lotus mounting plinths, the rubber gasket and also the nut that goes on the back of the mirror as it's different on the Lotus to get inside the plinth thing. There is also a special tool to tighten the nut up, as it's like a ring. A pair of needle nose pliers may do it though.

If you have the parts CD, all the bits are on there. If not, let me know and I'll give you the part numbers.

I too am "upgrading" to the CX mirrors, but I couldn't find the mounting plinth. No wonder!!! Its a Lotus part! I need to get that parts book! Add that to the list.....What are those part numbers?

Reasonable priced pair of CX mirrors don't exist in the States!! A recycler on Flea bay wants $250 for each "Lotus" mirror! They look ratty too!!!

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I'm going to pop down my local scrap yard on Friday and have a look for some, if they have a few I may grab em!!

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The plinth is A082U7113J

The gasket is A082U7123F

The nut thing is A082U7115F

You'll need two of each of those.

You'll also need a couple of M6x25 bolts and some nuts/washers, but they're standard bits. I'd use stainless ones of those though, as the chances are they'll be on there for a long time and you don't want them rusting and leaving rust marks down the side of your doors.

I actually have a spare pair of mirrors, but they are also pretty tatty. I don't really want to sell them though, as they are my spares.

Another point, the mirrors have inside them a funny cage shaped aluminium casting that breaks when the mirror is knocked.. It's designed to do this to be 'sacrificial'. (ie, so it doesn't rip a hole in your door if someone tries to rip your mirror off!)

This cage thing is not a component you can get seperately from Lotus... but you can from Citroen. I've got them in the past.

So, just in case you get a breakage in the future, ask someone nicely here in the UK to pop to Citroen for you.

Oh, these mirrors were also fitted to the Jaguar XJ220 and the McLaren F1 (also designed by Peter Stevens) .. as well as various TVR's, etc..

So make sure when you speak to the breakers yard you say you need them for your Citroen.. and not a TVR, Lotus, McLaren or Jaguar!!

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you can get the parts from here i found this under someone elses post

http://www.computermarket.com/mall/3933C3F...r_Parts_77.html

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you can get the parts from here i found this under someone elses post

http://www.computermarket.com/mall/3933C3F...r_Parts_77.html

I saw those mirrors but was still hoping to find them cheaper. Stupid US dollar is so weak, anything from UK is double in price....

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I saw those mirrors but was still hoping to find them cheaper. Stupid US dollar is so weak, anything from UK is double in price....

i can get some for you from holland

i believe the price is

researche is something i do when i don't know what the hell i'm doing

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they are off an accord but i'm not sure what model. do they use the lotus bottom parts to bolt to the doors?

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they are off an accord but i'm not sure what model. do they use the lotus bottom parts to bolt to the doors?

Hi,

I don't know as they were fitted already. You are correct and they are from a Honda Accord, but they do have some sort of shim to get them to fit correctly on the doors at the right angle. I will take a photo tomorrow close up of the fittings. They do look nice and from what I've read about the Lotus ones, a vast improvement regarding shake. Well they would be, I trust Honda more than Citroen when it comes to designing stuff to last! :thumbup:

Owen

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I've had a good look down the Jap scrap yard and cant see any that look like those. My prelude ones are a completly different fitting. I will keep looking.

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I've had a good look down the Jap scrap yard and cant see any that look like those. My prelude ones are a completly different fitting. I will keep looking.

Hi,

Sorry, they are not from a Honda accord, but a Honda S2000. Do a Google search for images and you will see loads of them. I'm sure the guy said Honda Accord when he was selling it, well he was half right! :thumbup:

Owen

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Thanks for that there are a couple of s2000's down there i'll go down and have another look. Thanks

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I saw those mirrors but was still hoping to find them cheaper. Stupid US dollar is so weak, anything from UK is double in price....

I spoke to these guys this morning (2:30am - 9:30am Lotus Time) and they no longer have any supply of these..... does anyone know where I can get a complete mirror assembly for the left hand side?? I broke mine backing into the garage (I know - but go ahead, have fun - those close to me already have). Once I started dissassembly, I found that the mirror had been "hacked" together - no wonder it did not work. I could maybe repair the assembly, but would rather just r&r the assembly.

Thanks,

Scott

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Ramspott & Brandt > Shop (English) > Esprit 1988 onwards > Body

I've also got details of a UK based Citroen parts specialist that does (did) them but can't find them at the moment. Will look again this evening.

Edit - found 'em + one or two others too :D

CX-Basis

Western Hemispheres

Andrew Brodie Citroen Specialists

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I spoke to these guys this morning (2:30am - 9:30am Lotus Time) and they no longer have any supply of these..... does anyone know where I can get a complete mirror assembly for the left hand side?? I broke mine backing into the garage (I know - but go ahead, have fun - those close to me already have). Once I started dissassembly, I found that the mirror had been "hacked" together - no wonder it did not work. I could maybe repair the assembly, but would rather just r&r the assembly.

Thanks,

Scott

try CBrownstead on this forum

i have yust sent him 2 cx miror's and he doesn't need them after all

gr Rens

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  • 12 years later...

I finally did a mirror update on my '88, couldn't find an exact wiring answer but with the aid of a Stevens wiring diagram, a multimeter and some good old trial and error:

- Blue and yellow are a splice of the same earth on the car, connect to white on the CX mirrors

- Green on the car to brown on the mirror

- White on the car to black on the mirror

If you get brown and black on the mirror the wrong way round horizontal and vertical are swapped but it still works.

Left-right is reversed compared to the older (Ford?) mirrors, but this seems best sorted at the switch if you want to tackle it, I haven't yet. Up/down work the same.

I hope that helps anyone else considering it!

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