What speeds do you shift at?

[mr50bmg]

For the first 10 minutes from a cold startup, I take it pretty easy. The ratios seem perfect for shifting at 3000 and picking up the next gear at 2000. This holds true from 1->2, 2->3, and 3->4. A bit more aggressive once the engine is warm is shifting at 4000 an picking up the next gear around 2700, 2900. This is in the suburbs, not city or country driving.

What do you think, is this all too conservative? What are your shift points?

-Dave

[Jussi]

Pretty much like yours.

Usually I shift below 3000rpm. but sometimes just to "show" I shift 4000-5000rpm.

I'm also driving very easy when car is cold (that affects all my cars).

[Guest teigan]

when the car is cold, i skip 2nd gear altogether. those rpm/speed shift rules have so many exceptions that it isn't useful to compare them. try a more specific situation: starting from zero, what is everyone's shift sequence to get up to 60mph fastest in a straight line?

[lrg_machine]

when the car is cold, i skip 2nd gear altogether.

Edited August 23, 2005 by lrg_machine

[Guest teigan]

the jump to 3 isn't that bad, and the car doesn't complain as long as i have the necessary forward motion. it's common practice at the local lotus club, because it saves the weak synchromesh on 2.

[Bibs]

7200rpm :P

[WayneB]

Depends on what Im racing

Old lady on Moped 1500rpm

Kid in Honda 2500rpm

Soccer mom in Suburban 3500rpm

Death wish on superbike 6000rpm

Bob Kenney in Dodge Viper GTS 7500rpm

[Evil_Dr_Fish]

Cold I alwasy shift before boost comes in - so about 3000ish

Warm, I short shift first to second - never change up above 3000 or kerrrunch (poor 20 year old gearbox)

Than bladder the crap out of it up to the BHP peak aroun 6,500 ish when the change point is perfect so that when you go to third (or whatever) you will always end up at the Torque peak now THAT'S design!

Errr.. quickest way to 60 is off in 1st at 3k rpm to 6.5k and the rest in 2nd of course!

Just wave goodbye to your Crown wheel and pinion!

Incidentally I ALWAYS double declutch whether going up or down!

Down is the typical heel&toe blip...

Up... It gives time for the revs to settle just enough to take the strain off the synchro

[dodgy]

so thats how i broke the crown wheel! must remember that when i get a new box . good day out sunday mr fish.

[Evil_Dr_Fish]

It was indeed!!

Would have been even better had I been in MY OWN CAR!!

[WayneB]

Cold I alwasy shift before boost comes in - so about 3000ish

Warm, I short shift first to second - never change up above 3000 or kerrrunch (poor 20 year old gearbox)

Than bladder the crap out of it up to the BHP peak aroun 6,500 ish when the change point is perfect so that when you go to third (or whatever) you will always end up at the Torque peak now THAT'S design!

Errr.. quickest way to 60 is off in 1st at 3k rpm to 6.5k and the rest in 2nd of course!

Just wave goodbye to your Crown wheel and pinion!

Incidentally I ALWAYS double declutch whether going up or down!

Down is the typical heel&toe blip...

Up... It gives time for the revs to settle just enough to take the strain off the synchro

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Beautiful technique Fishy

Textbook style 10 out of 10

What part of it were you not doing right when you wrecked your Esprit?

[gpz900r]

I currently sit in my car and pretend to change gear, I can make really good engine noises and even skid sounds when the road is quiet,

I have the video footage of me overtaking an aston martin at speed just pre the engine packing in, not impressed, do to the car what its built to do and she pops, wouldnt have happenned if it had of been white.

Edited August 24, 2005 by gpz900r

[WayneB]

Been in a Vanquish at 158

They have LOTS left

Dont look as nice as an Esprit(giugiaro) though

Was told that by an Aston -Martin engineer who was visiting me.

Edited August 23, 2005 by WayneB

[Evil_Dr_Fish]

Low blow!! err and EVERYTHING!!!

I didn't have a clue! Didnt THINK I was being a twat at the time... but in hindsight I was...

I spent HOURS going over and over what happened and accepting it was 110% entirely my own fault, no excuses, caveats, or exclusions was the only way I was going to LEARN from my mistake and not doom myself to repeat it!

Too much right foot too soon when the wheels weren't straight and then reacted incorrectly when she power oversteered!

DOLT

[gpz900r]

Been in a Vanquish at 158

They have LOTS left

Dont look as nice as an Esprit(giugiaro) though

Was told that by an Aston -Martin engineer who was visiting me.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It looked nice when it came out of the blue smoke pouring out the back of my car and pi*ed pass me as if I was stood still, ONE DAY MR BROWN ONE DAY!

I sent an email to aston martin a few years ago as they had a 1969 silver birch DB5, I asked if they would take pity on me and swap it for my cavalier, they sent a letter back saying yes no problem marc but just make sure there is 120k in used notes in the boot, one day I will take that email and a cavalier down there and collect my car! umm and now for the hard bit, where do I find 115k?

[Evil_Dr_Fish]

EXCELLENT!!!

Glad to see they have a sense of humour!!

[WayneB]

Low blow!! err and EVERYTHING!!!

I didn't have a clue! Didnt THINK I was being a twat at the time... but in hindsight I was...

I spent HOURS going over and over what happened and accepting it was 110% entirely my own fault, no excuses, caveats, or exclusions was the only way I was going to LEARN from my mistake and not doom myself to repeat it!

Too much right foot too soon when the wheels weren't straight and then reacted incorrectly when she power oversteered!

DOLT

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Didnt mean it as a Cheap shot me old mate

Part of the process of becoming a decient driver is to be anylitical and learn from your mistakes

Its the idiots who think they are hot sh*t and dont admit to their mistakes who never learn

[WayneB]

It looked nice when it came out of the blue smoke pouring out the back of my car and pi*ed pass me as if I was stood still, ONE DAY MR BROWN ONE DAY!

I sent an email to aston martin a few years ago as they had a 1969 silver birch DB5, I asked if they would take pity on me and swap it for my cavalier, they sent a letter back saying yes no problem marc but just make sure there is 120k in used notes in the boot, one day I will take that email and a cavalier down there and collect my car! umm and now for the hard bit, where do I find 115k?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

115k? No problem Bibs will lend it you!

[Bibs]

30% APR are you're in

[gpz900r]

30% APR are you're in

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

gee thanks buddy, actually yes i'll take the loan, repament over lets say 450 years at 2 quid a week, wire the money over to my swiss account in the morning, oh and by the way boys, if any of you are stock traders, keep an eye on OXB Oxford BioMedica PLC (OXB.L) Im in at 38p and also in at 32p. I expect the price to rise to around 65p within the year, I hope maybe even a pound. But dont slap me if you get your fingers burnt!

[WayneB]

Low blow!! err and EVERYTHING!!!

I didn't have a clue! Didnt THINK I was being a twat at the time... but in hindsight I was...

I spent HOURS going over and over what happened and accepting it was 110% entirely my own fault, no excuses, caveats, or exclusions was the only way I was going to LEARN from my mistake and not doom myself to repeat it!

Too much right foot too soon when the wheels weren't straight and then reacted incorrectly when she power oversteered!

DOLT

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Robin, I have been anylising your accident and I know what went wrong

You had failed to put on you leather Les Leston driving gloves!

As seen here modeled by some lazygeyser who couldnt have even bothered to shave that day

[Splashout]

just read all of this thread gotta be one of the best yet lmao

[Evil_Dr_Fish]

Yeah... what he didn't show you was the mathcing leather cap that goes with it or where he was going at the time

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