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I am going out for a last hoon today (probably until i run out of fuel!) because i am going to SORN(register the car off the road for the purposes of car tax for those not familiar with the term) my car tomorrow for quite a while!

Yes i have to save up for a new exhaust manifold, steering rack and clutch :thumbup: and i am going to have to summon the courage to get the engine out myself coz i can't afford/not going to let someone charge me


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you Spoken to troy ? im sure he has a manifold there that will fit yours, as for the other bit get the steering rack reconned just as good and the cltuch isnt that expensive in the long run, its getting the bits out and refitting thats the killer though!

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No, I have not spoken to Troy - i will PM him, do you think i could negotiate free fitting?

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To be fair to Troy he's just trying to establish his business so I don't think you'd be right to try and get free fitting off him. Also it's supposed to be a pig of a job, quite labour intensive.


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Hi Simon,

Sorry to hear that.My first experience of Esprit maintenance was taking the engine out of an 86 turbo.Its not that bad.My brother helped my and he's a barrister.He didn't even spill his champagne whilst hoisting it out... :thumbup:

Seriously chin up, some one will have cheap manifold(my last one sold for

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Simon,

A LEF member and careful with your kidneys? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Regards,

Peter.

Yeah you are right! I was going to put liver but everybody knows thats knackered! I am not worried though because i watched a program on discovery channel that reckons the liver can regenerate itself!

But i should be careful for what i wish for! Dialysis is NO laughing matter!!

Seriously chin up, some one will have cheap manifold(my last one sold for

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you have my sympathies as I also have the same problem. ie manifold needs replacement and I currently cant afford it still reeling from my C service and extras bill last summer (2850ish)


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Don't even think about doing it in situ...pull the whole lump, doesn't take more than a day from a standing start...then you can get on with lots of cleaning and polishing and painting the engine bay and..and....all the countless things you can't get at with the lump in. It's not rocket science, just a few nuts and bolts...does become addictive, though. All you need is a brain, ideally two eyes and two arms with hands attached...although I manage reasonably well with a duff right shoulder...think of all the stuff you'll know about afterwards!! All part of the joy of ownership.


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I agree

My experience is that it will take about the same amount of time to do it in situ as it will to remove the engine and box.Plus you can make sure everything is torqued up properly etc etc.(Just my experience ,I'm sure most profesissionals can do it insitu easier??)

Plus Plus you can guarantee that other things will need doing anyway.Ever tried renewing a front bottom water hose with the engine insitu :D .The cam belt can be done easily etc etc.

As you need to do the clutch the box needs to be undone anyway.

Three problems I had on my first attempt years ago

Make sure all the front hoses are disconnected and the A/C if fitted is drained before you disconnect !

Make sure your engine crane has a long reach.Mine was a 1.5 t clarke foding one and it was marginal !!

JUST mind the rear bodywork whilst hoisting it out !!!

Other than that start at 8am with plenty of enthusiasm and it'll be out by tea time.Although I put mine back in on my own it is really a two man job.

Rich

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If you're not confident or don't have the tools/talent/facilities to DIY then call Troy, he's very good! His number is 07881-955013 :D


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My experience is that it will take about the same amount of time to do it in situ as it will to remove the engine

and box.Plus you can make sure everything is torqued up properly etc etc.(Just my experience ,I'm sure most

profesissionals can do it insitu easier??)

Thats probably the truth of it! I guess once you have done 100 manifolds in-situ then

it's way faster than whipping the engine and gearbox out of the car.

Over the past nine years i've had three manifolds and thay have all been done in-situ at a

price much, much, cheaper than the engine out price (a price which i am always warned of,

to cover themselves in a worse case scenario, but have yet to experience).

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Hi,

Simon, if you're stuck and really need a hand you can give me a call. Being an ex-motor technician I've had more engines out than I care to remember, some easy, some a right pain in the arse. However many times you check and think you're disconnected everything, there's always something still connected to the engine as you raise the hoist and the car is almost lifting up with it! :D

I want to do a simlair thing either next year or the year after, remove the engine, replace leaking seals, belts, clean and paint the chassis and generally give the car and engine a good spring clean. Having done the manifold in, it's not the nicest of jobs, but perhaps easier than taking the engine out, but I have a Stevens so can't comment regarding a G car manifold.

You know doing the job yourself that it's so much more rewarding once it's all done.

Owen

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Simon,

If you need a hand I've been training at the Bibs school of pointing.

I would lend you my Liver but I recon it's worse than yours!


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Simon,

You mentioned the option of declaring SORN and saving up to do the work. If this is what you decide to do, it's worth noting that Esprit's prefer to be driven than to stand and further problems can arise when they do. If you do declare SORN, it's worth turning the engine over quite regularly and moving the car, so certain parts don't seize up.

Good luck what ever you decide.

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Hi Simon,

As of yesterday, I'm back in the US now (and back to work today!) . Good luck with the work on the car. In my experience there's a great feeling of satisfaction when a job like this is finished. Plus you know that the work was done right. My car's unlikely to get out for a while either, just because the weather is poor. I've a few small things on my to do list as well.

Cheers,

Trevor

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Simon,

I remember a similar day back in September the foreboding experience on the M25 and the gloomy feeling after cutting the ignition for the 'last' time. However, once you get stuck in with the task, realise that it is not insurmountable your spirits will recover. I recommend a therapeutic shopping session at frosts targeted at POR products.

Remember too that you don't have to do everything yourself, I'm doing the bits that I'm comfortable with (undoing and doing up things on the outside) and leaving critical stuff (things with 'insides') for an expert (Troy).

Keep in mind how fabulous it will look when completed, I always get a bit of a lift when I see my freshly painted gearbox sitting on the table and all the other squeaky clean articles all wrapped up and ready to be refitted.

A final warning, be prepared for the icy looks as you traipse in with some random gunk encrusted item and the sound of slamming doors as minute droplets spray over the splashback behind the sink - dont try to explain the functional purpose of the splashback or indeed demonstrate it with the washing up sponge...

Ambrose

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Between the Norwich & local area we have it sorted.

Kimbers can point at the bit to hit.

I'll hand somebody the hammer, assuming my spine will function well enough to lift it.

Budsy will give advice on how hard to hit it and the direction.

Then you can apply the necessary persuasion to remove the offending item.

If all else fails, Nifty will be politely asked to tow the vehicle to a suitable specialist with some tale of ....

"Don't know who did this, it was like that when I bought it as a project......"

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Guys,

Thanks to you all for your wise words of encouragement! I have had a good look at it and i am feeling much more optomistic!

Thanks to owen, andydclements and kimbers for there offer of help (even if the extent is just to point and laugh!)

I am going to go for it just as soon as i have enough money to pay for manifold and clutch (is there anything else that needs to be replaced while the engine is out?)

Best wishes to you all for the new year!

SiF


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Thanks to owen, andydclements and kimbers for there offer of help (even if the extent is just to point and laugh!)

SiF

My finger Simon doesn't just point and laugh, it does have 17 years practical knowledge attached to the other end, I haven't forgotten all of it yet! :unworthy:

Owen.

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