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When I bought my 4-pot SE new in 1990 I used her every day for 7 years, averaging almost 20k a year (mostly motorway commuting between Chester/Wirral and Manchester) and she never missed a beat, although she was pretty 'tired' when I laid her up in 1997 for an overhaul. Lotus dealer mechanics were aghast at how soon my service intervals came up, but one said to me once that the regular use was making mine a better car than many garage queens.

I'd guess that the V8 would use the same revs - they have the same gearbox - and be even less stressed than an S4. You'll be bumbling along at around 2500rpm mostly and running no real boost. My view is that our cars should be used, but stay on top of maintenance and oil/filter changes, and don't let any faults develop too far.

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they can be used every day but

if you get a technical problem you'll need spare parts

in my country it takes about 14 days in average to get them

and when you need an additional part you'll have to wait another 14 days

used my car for 2 years as an daily runner (50 km / day)

no problems

rens

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researche is something i do when i don't know what the hell i'm doing

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Hi Nick,

Difference between V8 and 4 pot on motorway is that the V8 cruises off boost and the 4 pots is nearly always on boost. This can make the V8 quite economical.

You'll have

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I do like the idea of the V8 - less reving = more milage without problems ?????

Totaly agree with keeping cars moving daily, and being in UK close to Lotus garages and suppliers will help

I was thinking of looking at this - anyone seen it ?

What doe ex Lotus car really mean - a mule that everyone jupmed in as thrashed, a car to thril visitors - high speed heavy braking, almost like a hire car ?

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/c...mp;max_mileage=

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Directors of Lotus often had Esprit's as company cars, I'd imagine that's what's meant :)

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Could be anything really, Directors (or other staff) car, ex demonstrator , press car.

Worth calling and asking the seller the details of what it was used for & by whom.

You might even be able to get that verified by Lotus.

Andy

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The V8 has a higher 5th gear than the S4S so would be doing less revs. At 75mph the V8 is doing 2941rpm (5th gear = 25.5mph/1000rpm) the S4S is doing 3318rpm (5th gear = 22.6mph/1000rpm).

One thing to bear in mind is that in the V8 when you try to cruise at 75mph you end up creeping up to over 90mph without noticing. This could have a rather drastic effect on your driving licence.

Regards,

Peter.

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can agree to peters comment, a V8 does rev quiet and in low range under cruise-mode. Other point: My car runs better in the years as it was my only car and in daily use !

Ok i have now over 100k [km] on it , the faults are numerous as I'm a bit in loss of maintenance consistency now :)

Positive point is, you need only the first, third and last gear to drive ; -from city traffic to motorway speed . The effect of torque.... . B)

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If I could I would daily drive my V8. However harsh canadian winters and the fact that I have to drive down gravel to go to work all the time in summer does not allow me to do this. I do try to drive it is a much as possible, though. Put 3200 miles on it in 4 months compared to the previous owner putting on 4k miles in 2.5 years. Car never skipped a beat, just had AC compressor go on me.

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Neither of us would....neither of us can take it to work, I could not get ours in the car park at work due to the gate entrance/slope. If it goes wrong, which they annoyingly do, it's never a three day turn around to get it back on the road again....that's our experience of an S4 and a V8 going wrong. The problem has always been the headache of locating parts. And, in taking the car to a specialist, we have never been able to have work carried out quickly, and live relatively near to an excellent Esprit specialist.

We live in a rural area where the roads get bad for quite a few months of the year....lost the S4 one December night and JBF lucky to be alive after that crash. The fact that he is speaks volumes about the car.

I think that experience alone was one of the deciding factors on off-roading when we do. Or perhaps we are just middle aged and dull!!! I think the fact the car only did 600 miles last year likely proves that!

Just because you can, does'nt mean you should.

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I ran each of my V8s (1996 V8, 1998 V8-GT and finally 1999 V8 S350) everyday in the early years of ownership, with commutes of 40-80 miles and really enjoyed the experience.

But... as many have already stated, it is always good to have a back-up car in case of any problems.

In fairness, I always found that the cars actually benefit from regular, routine usage and do not appreciate being left for extended periods.

Cheers,

Mike S

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The v8 is a better car for commuting (lighter clutch and more torque, motorway speeds off-boost etc) but its not a cheap car to run every day. I did just under 50k miles over 5 years - for the first three I used the car every day in all weathers. Its "do-able" but it will be expensive. It makes more sense to have a "beater" for day-to-day or when the esprit is bust. low 20's mpg is possible - similar to my GT3 about the same as a Focus RS i had later on..

My v8 owernship is documented here: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/members/showCar.asp?carId=161

Would I do it again? Maybe? I don't have the cash right now (other commitments etc). Do i regret doing it? No way..! Nothing beats the buzz of driving an esprit - do be able to do it EVERY day is a real joy - good day at work? awesome drive home in a supercar tops it off nicely. BAD day at work.. no antidote better than the lotus IMO.

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I do like the idea of the V8 - less reving = more milage without problems ?????

Totaly agree with keeping cars moving daily, and being in UK close to Lotus garages and suppliers will help

I was thinking of looking at this - anyone seen it ?

What doe ex Lotus car really mean - a mule that everyone jupmed in as thrashed, a car to thril visitors - high speed heavy braking, almost like a hire car ?

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/c...mp;max_mileage=

Nice loking car, but I believe early V8's suffered from engine problems that they didn'nt fully cure till post 98. Make sure it has had the remedial work done before you consider it.

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Hi Nick,

Pre mid 2000 cars had old type sealant and unfortunately weren't recalled by Lotus as this would have costed too much. Instead when liners failed, from what I've read it became a 50/50 split (for whatever reason) between Lotus and the customer on resealing or engine rebuild.

The only way to check is service history with receipts. Sometimes Lotus factory did the rebuild sometimes the dealer did it.

Hope this helps,

Dave Walters

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Nice loking car, but I believe early V8's suffered from engine problems that they didn'nt fully cure till post 98. Make sure it has had the remedial work done before you consider it.

No changes to the engine in 98 to my knowledge..? The liner seal changed 2000 (details on lew) but I would expect all pre-2000 cars to have had a rebuild by now. I'd not buy another v8 unless it was either post 2000 or had a documented re-build carried out with the hylomar sealant.

The only thing to choose between early/later v8's is the interior, plus there were some minor tweeks to wiper arm and gear linkage.

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Has anyone here driven a pre 98 V8 Esprit and a post 98 V8 Esprit and can comment on the improvement of the gear linkage?

Regards,

Peter.

The only thing to choose between early/later v8's is the interior, plus there were some minor tweeks to wiper arm and gear linkage.
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my is originally fitted with the later type gear-linkage and non-plastic clutch hose. It works good so far, as long as you know the secrets. There is a part in the gearbox that stops spinning of gears!? (as i understand the workshopbook..) and makes it easier to revers. I often select an other gear first, than i shift in revers, all with a car on fully stand still. Maybe the problems with revers select if i don't do this, is because of the older clutch and some air that i must bleed from the system in the next time... . Sometimes it is a problem for me to disengage a gear in low engine rews (innercity-traffic) and go to revers to park the car, but not often.

I personally like the point that the first cockpit versions offer a boost information. And also the step on the dashboard passenger-side is a thing that attracts me. If i go in the corners to fast all stuff rolls from the dash in my car (OK -I'm a bit of a messy sometimes :) )

What i also hate is the big *valeo* wiperarm from the Renault-Twingo citycar. It's just to high and does not fit the angle and airflow of the later S4 front. Especially on German motorways , if you know what i mean ...

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No changes to the engine in 98 to my knowledge..? The liner seal changed 2000 (details on lew) but I would expect all pre-2000 cars to have had a rebuild by now. I'd not buy another v8 unless it was either post 2000 or had a documented re-build carried out with the hylomar sealant.

The only thing to choose between early/later v8's is the interior, plus there were some minor tweeks to wiper arm and gear linkage.

I thought there were some changes to the siting of the spoiler too. I thought on the earlier V8's you kind of had to lean over the spoiler to get in the boot, with it being sited on the back of the car as oppopsed to the boot lid. I'm 5'3'' and found it somewhat awkward leaning over into the boot of an earlier V8 we looked at...the later ones it's on the boot so lifts away. Apologies if I'm talking bollocks here.

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Katie,

You are absolutely right, so your not talking bollocks. The 96 & 97 had the sport 300 spoiler attached to the back of the car. the my 98 onwards had the spoiler on the tail gate so it lifted up and made loading easier.

Regards,

Peter.

I thought there were some changes to the siting of the spoiler too. I thought on the earlier V8's you kind of had to lean over the spoiler to get in the boot, with it being sited on the back of the car as oppopsed to the boot lid. I'm 5'3'' and found it somewhat awkward leaning over into the boot of an earlier V8 we looked at...the later ones it's on the boot so lifts away. Apologies if I'm talking bollocks here.
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Have you considered a GT3 as a daily drive, I use mine every week nearly (only when I have the kids is it not used, 3 doesnt go into 2!). I have driven pretty much 10K miles in a year withou much problem. If you cruise on motorways below 80 it will be off boost, but its not far away as Dave W said. Ok, its not as laid back as a V8 but the driving it is what makes the GT3 an excellent car. even on my long runs its still good if you have teh V8 comfort seats in it.

just another fly in the oitment to consider

Alex

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