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Buying a Turbo SE - what to look out for?

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Hi all,

Pretty new here and looking to buy an Esprit.

It all started out pretty sensible with ideas of buying a n/a Esprit, but the attraction of more power is beginning to seriously affect my decision making!

Apart from the usual problems ie fuel smells, steering play, electrics etc, I just wondered what specific problems I should look for on a Turbo SE?

Looking at the tech forum, chargecoolers seem to be a favourite and if I'm correct, the cooler plenum should be fairly cool to the touch after a good run?

Any help gratefully received.

Cheers,

Ernie

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Hi, re what to look for, excluding the V8, I'd say most cars turbo are pretty much the same with regards to areas to look for.

Yes the charge cooler should be cool, but if it's not, and the water is full, then it's not a big job to replace the impeller or put in an electric pump instead.

Look out for smoke on start up, and smoke when warm (rings/ turbo/ valve guides and valve guides for those two options).

Ideally steering should be razor sharp with no play, so check for wear (new UJs are pricey and a pain to fit unless you have a ramp), bushes could be an issue if you're looking at an SE, it might be the owner hasn't got round to replacing them and they're warn, whereas an older car should have been done by now.

Suspension should move, I've seen cars where the joints have become stuck with rust, not a big job for each bit, as long as bolts and studs are not rusted solid.

Gearboxes aren't too bad in an SE (Renault box) as they're able to handle the power more easily than the Citroen box, but the gear selector mechanism wears out both front and rear.

Best advice is, look at more than one similar car and compare how they drive, feel and sound. Ideally get an inspection done (who can do it depends on your location/ car's location).

Best of luck.

BTW does the name hint at your location, or just some random choice?

Andy

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Hi Ernie,

May be these threads will help you:

http://www.lotusespritworld.co.uk/buying.html

http://www.lotusespritworld.co.uk/EBuying/driving.html

Most important imo; take your time; study, study, study; look around everywhere; ask any Espritowner or -expert ; wait with buying untill you have an instant general knowledge of Esprits.

After some time you become aware of the fact that the cars you would have bought in the beginning instantly you now never would buy..........that is the moment to be able to buy your Esprit.

Good luck, it is a fantastic car!

Best regards,

Ruud

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i know sound stupid, but check everithing what is possible, and count with some problem with inside parts, like clutch...............think u ll not disassembling the car, and check service book, but dont believe 100%


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A few common things on cars i've looked at, and a few things creeping onto

many SE's out there...

:)

Cam belt service long overdue.

Cracked exhaust manifold.

Oil in sparkplug ports (leaking cam tower).

Nasty non lotus steering wheel and gear nob.

Oil on manifold (leaking cam tower, creates smoke as it burns off).

Rusty window frames.

Knacker chargecooler impeller.

Broken aircon.

Slow electric windows.

Exhuaust rattle/muffling from defective EBPV.

Fuel breather perished (smell).

Cheap looking aftermarket alloy tat everywhere.

High Idle from defective TJ or other sensor fault.

badging missing or damaged.

Check engine light (you get no full boost until this is fixed).

Fuel tanks rusting.

Shagged laquer (needing rub down respray).

Red paint faded pink (beyond T cut repair!).

Large gaps in service history.

Seizing calipers.

Crap gear change (see 'red hose', new gear change parts, crossgate etc etc).

(good branded) Tyres not easy/impossible to get.

Don't let this put you off! Most of these can be on ANY esprit model, but at best the SE is a 15 year old

car now. Even early V8 cars have rusting fuel tanks and rusting window trim, so year/model does not

mean that much. I've had ten years of non PAS esprits, no problem, unless you are planning tescos or

the daily traffic jam/ office car park, or have little arms, or a power assisted computer mouse.

Some of the most desirable cars ever made have no PAS!!!!

:devil:

PS, in this time people are worried the new esprit will look like the elise, it's

easy to forget that all post SE esprits looked like the M100 elan. The SE was

the last Esprit not crafted to look like something else, that counts for something.

Wise choice mate.

:doc:

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Holy cr&p Paul, are your trying to scare poor Ernie away.

If you're looking at the SE then you might as well look at S4 Esprits as well.

Things to look out for in the S4

:) ahhh...

well...

Pretty much what Paul said above. :devil:


Simon  (94 S4)      My Esprit will be for sale in late 2017

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Hi Ernie,

welcome to the forum. My best advice is to go for a cheerish car. It probably won't be cheap but it'll have all the problems sorted. Full specialist service history is a good sign. And don't fall for the cars with 50k - 60k on the odometer and some service history, there's plenty of those. High mileage isn't a problem if the car's been looked after, and lets face it most SE's that age will have high mileage.

Good luck :devil:.

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Thanks guys, just so you know, I'm definitely not rushing into buying a car. I've come from the Caterham 7 world where things are a tad simpler, so I'm very conscious of taking my time to get the right car.

I'm fairly handy with the spanners anyway having built & obsessively maintained 3 Caterhams from the tender age of 22!

Having said that I want to get one that doesn't need the spanner drawer open every 20 miles!!!

Andy - yes, my name does hint at the location. Did I meet you at the Bird in Hand at the last meet? I came along with Nifty to the meet.

Don't worry Simon, you haven't scared me off, that's the sort of list I expected!!!!

A good friend of mine has a massive classic Lotus collection and I asked him once how he chose which car to drive.. "simple" he said "I take the first one that works!!!"

I'm going to the Lotus do at Snett tomorrow, so I'll hopefully see some of you there.

Cheers,

Ernie

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Hi again Ern, hadn't put 2 and 2 together, I knew I met an Ernie, and an Ern had just joined, but ........ time to get the peroxide out again, I'm having a blonde moment.

Andy

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Hi Ernie,

If you go to the www.espritfactfile.com you will find

a very informative guide for first time buyers.

Good luck

Carl

89 Esprit SE

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I'd say don't buy one cheap as you'll only end up spending the difference in getting it up to scratch and if possible get it inspected by a Lotus specialist who can get it up on a ramp and have a good look at it. Other things to bear in mind are the original tyres on the SE are almost impossible to find now, so check they're in good condition and if not be prepared to source alternatives. Also make sure the radiator isn't leaking or to corroded as this can be very expensive to fix.

All things said and done though the SE is a great car and nothing should put you off buying a good one, but do expect to pay

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