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hi,

my dad is checking out an esprit for sale in malta (only 2 on the island) .. the interiour looks quite good , but the centre console for the electric windows is quite rough .. does anyone know how likely is is to buy a replacement in cream leather and also how difficult it is to replace.?

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thats a pic of the console off the actual car for sale .. as you can see its in quite a rough condition

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Vin

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HI Vin,

the replacement is a 10 minutes job but I don't think you will be able to find a replacement spare in the same cream leather as your.

If the switch are still good, you can easly have your part retrimmed with a matched leather from a specialist.

Not expensive and easy.

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Like Giorgio said it should be easy. With luck you may get away with taking out the screw you can see in the picture and pulling it forwards to release the rear tongue from under the central armrest. If not, you may have to pull off the armrest which will probably mean you will need new plastic fixings for that when you put it back together.

Getting it re-trimmed shouldn't cost much as it's so small. You may need some repair where the right-hand window switch is as it looks from the picture that the hole is over-sized. A bit of work with a fibreglass repair kit should soon fix that, if needed.

Have you checked the buyer's guide on Lotus Esprit World or spoken to the other Esprit owner on the island so you know what to look for?

Good luck with the purchase and here's to many happy miles of Esprit driving.

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hey,

thanks for the advice. well since i live in the uk i cant really check it out myself, i know my dad is going to have a look at the other lotus , but funnily enough both cars are for sale. Apparently the current owner of the car in the pic , had all the interiour apart from the dash board and the window console replaced with buffalo skin , becuase he couldnt find the appropriate leather for the car. Aparently he also replaced the carburetors with weber's.

Also according to my dad , when the guy started the car up there was quite a bit of smoke, but the guy said it was because he hadnt started the car up in over 2 months. Is this a common thing with esprits, or should it be something i should worry about.

also he said for some reason he disconnected the mirror and window electrics because he was worried that it might cuase a fire in the future.Can this actually happen?

the car is a 1983 turbo. he's also had a light installed in the engine bay, and a power switch to disconnect the battery when the car is being stored.

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thats a pic of the car's engine bay.

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thats a pic of the interiour, you can see that the seats and door panels have been re-trimmed.

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Vin

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Many Esprits have been destroyed by fire but I have heard of none being caused by the electric windows or mirrors. What can lead to the fire is oil leaking onto the exhaust manifold which it sounds is happening with this car. It smokes because oil is being burnt somewhere. It's either leaking past the valve stems or leaking from the exhaust cam tower onto the exhaust manifold. I would not say it's normal.

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I see, i found that hard to beleive too. after hearing this i'll definatly take it to a garage to check it out. One problem that malta has is that there aren't any lotus specialists on the island, but i should think that a performance specialist would be able to find out whats going on. As far as i am aware the smoke was coming out of the exhuast pipes, not directly off the engine, but i'll double check.

thanks for the advice

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What kind of money are they asking for these cars?

Bjorn

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the car is in malta .. and since malta has a very higher registration tax .. it pretty much doubles the value of the car from that of an english esprit .. If you deduct the tax it works out at about

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I know a lot about car taxes. They are horrific here in Norway too. They can easily double the price of a car.

Any engine smoking on startup is in my books needing a major work over - sorry. I have recently completed an engine rebuild, and they are costly. However I wish you the best of luck. Check with SJ Sportscar etc. to get a quote for a replacement engine if you don't have any local mechanics that can help you with a rebuild.

Bjorn

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"If it isn't leaking, it's empty" - Comment from a British sportscar enthusiast after being made aware of an oil slick under his car

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ye i know .. the tax has just changed over .. ford example if you want to buy say a lamborghini diablo from the uk, and take it to malta, you must pay 70,000 euro's in tax!!! just the tax, not including the cost of the car! and on top an annual license of about 1000 euro's ..

i will definatly get my dad to take it to a mechanic to have it checked out since i live in the uk ,but im moving back home in summer. I was thinking of getting a turbo from the uk but its much easier getting one directly from malta.

The only problem is that there are no lotus specialists in malta , but the person selling the car said he is willing to have the car checked thoroughly at a performance specialist.

i will definatly not buy the car if its in need major mechanical work. the engine has been rebuilt in the past, could it be a faulty oil pipe?

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A word of warning, if the Dellortos have been replaced with Webbers then walk away.... the Dellortos are especially made for the turbo and are sealed in places that the Webbers are not. Under boost conditions there is a good chance that fuel will leak onto the distributor (the most common fire hazard in the Esprit). This is more likely to ruin your day than the electric windows or mirrors..

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