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How can a tall 6'3 man fit into an s1 1977 esprit?!

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I was in Belgium a couple of weeks ago, make a hole in one of your motorways! That aside, I was there to meet with some real Lotus enthusiasts, there's a very strong community local to you :gathering:

I have found http://www.lotus-forum.be/, my plan was to inquire over there if there's someone with an S3 in my neighbourhood. If you know of any other/larger clubs, I'd very much like to know.

An Esprit would be a very nice car to have, but I want to make sure I'd be able to keep enjoying it. I'm sure I wouldn't mind the cramped seating the first 1000 miles, but I'm afraid it'd get old quite fast.

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Greetings, my fellow vertically challenged friend. :gathering:

Regarding driving an S3 Turbo with stock seats, was this at all doable (besides looking rather comical I suppose) or would you consider driving with stock seats as a longterm solution pretty much impossible?

The rake seats where fitted to the 'HC' by Lotus as stock/standard factory fit. It was the only G car to have them before the Stevens cars. I can't say how you would get on in the an earlier car but best as 'Bibs' says is to try one out.

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Finding an S3 to see if I fit will be the next step since I haven't seen anyone saying "not a chance in hell!" so far. :gathering:

The HC rake seats are similar to a standard racing bucket seat I assume? I googled for a photo, is this correct? This should be an '87 Turbo HC interior, doesn't look very different to me:

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Would it be possible to find a set of these at a specialist breaker's for a reasonable price? One of my problems with more modern racing seats is that I find them to take away from the charm of the original interior. HC seats would be a great solution!

Edited by Bibs

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this is mine

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which is the full leather version.

One issue is the interior style in the HC was different to the earlier car which had the lose fit finish also 'hc's are very rear so it may be very difficult to find some old seats.

Douglas Valley did have a white one a while back but it wasn't for breaking

http://www.douglasvalley.co.uk/results.asp?spg=71&pgid=2&page=0&filter=&sort=

As you are 2" (50cm) shorter than me depending wheather this is in the body or leg then you might find you dont have an issue. Try and see

Edited by gghc87

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good luck with the search do let us know how you get on

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I'll be setting up LEF Belgium soon, you will be able to discuss in Flemish perhaps?

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I'll be setting up LEF Belgium soon, you will be able to discuss in Flemish perhaps?

I'm quite happy to discuss in any language as long I as manage to fit my nuisance of a body behind the wheel of an Esprit S3 :gathering:

For people in the same predicament, this might be an interesting link: http://www.bf-torino...e/bf-sitze.html

BF Torino supply mostly vintage racing seats and are quite popular with Alfa owners. Especially the Nurburgring and Silverstone models wouldn't look out of place in a Giugiaro when upholstered in a matching colour. And of course, the price isn't too bad either (about 280£ a seat).

Edited by Furrikain

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I'm 6ft.5inches and have installed an Elise seat in my S3 - Feel free to drop in any time for a test-seating robo.gif

It gave me 1" more headroom and 2"-3" more legroom.

My car also have the glass sun-roof.

I think I paid about

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I'm 6ft.5inches and have installed an Elise seat in my S3 - Feel free to drop in any time for a test-seating robo.gif

Nice of you to offer, unfortunately Oslo is a "bit" far for me. What was the situation like with the original seat? Bearable or an absolute nightmare?

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Hi all

Having Had an email from Adriaan regarding his situation, I thought I'd post my reply incase it is of use to anyone else.

So here is is.....

Hiya mate

Yes I am a little on the large size.. Mainly around the middle.

I'm a little shorter than you @ 6'3" but weighing in at a hefty 18.5 stone with exactly the same shoe size.

Firstly the feet, an over rated problem in my view, a nice pair of those racing 'style' shoes from someone like Puma will have that sorted no problem.

To be completely honest with you, I think the fact that I'm fat and your very thin will make your situation much easier to accomodate. I'm sure if I lost 4 or 5 stone I'd be VERY comfortable indeed.

The options of going for sunroof V no sunroof is a matter of choice I guess. I have no sunroof, but the roof itself is only the thickness of fibreglass, some very thin foam, about 5mm max and then the fabric. The glass roof would be almost as thick as that itself and its very heavy. Also surrounding the glass roof is thicker trim that is not there on the non sunroof car, this impeeds the headroom slightly more, but it does give you the option of popping the roof open and gaining an extra inch, if you lean your head to the left a little (or right depending on country I guess).

All that said and done I really did struggle to get comfy in my car. I've not driven it much at all, only a few hundred miles, and most of those over 4 years ago but I remember it being VERY cramped for me, I'd not want to have had a significant bump in it.

I have now got the Elise seats, they do seem to give a noticable improvement in both head and leg room due to the fact that the back is now flush against the firewall moving my vast bum a couple of inches further back and the seat base is thinner so a little more headroom.

One point to make is that with the seat out of the car there is plenty of room for me to get easily comfortable with room to spare, so there is always a solution, even if this is a custom moulded seat. I have had ideas of removing the base (the actual carcus not the mounting frame) of the seat so the foam sits directly on the floor and also removing a little of the bracing on the back of the seat to gain extra leg room, for now though they will stay as is.

They are currently mounted using the standard seat frames and spaced up with a LOT of washers and will stay like that till I'm happy with the position, at which time I will get some alloy blocks made. No extra room can be found by removing the frames as the base of the seat actually hangs down a good inch or two lower than the runners themselves, hence having to space them up. If you want some photos I can supply them, but I warn you now, they aint too pretty. :gathering:

To answer your question simply, you should have no problem at all fitting in, its just a matter of what works for you as an individual to get it that way. You may be lucky and slip straight in. Just leave the pies at home and you'll be a happy man in there.

Simon

Edited by Simon350S

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Hi all

Having Had an email from Adriaan regarding his situation, I thought I'd post my reply incase it is of use to anyone else.

So here is is.....

I replied to your e-mail before seeing this post, but thanks again for the information. Currently I'm in the process of finding an S3 in my neighbourhood for some in car yoga, fingers crossed...

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