lottylotus Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 please GOD let the new esprit be somthing like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitstoppete Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 i doubt it, but, what a weapon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th4neuk Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 in a word - WOW That is an incredible machine. I soooooo hope they have one there at supercar sunday next year. Would love to here the engines running!! what an experience driving that must be!! Cheers Quote Alan Croft 2000 V8 GT 87 Turbo Esprit HC 2000 Elise Sport 160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 I'll take it...errr what oh....just woke up Must admit I was bowled over by it, fabulous car ! Quote facebook = [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayevora Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Video'ed it. Wasn't going to watch it tonight - too late (11.45pm) until I read above comments. Itching to watch it now..... Got to be up at 6am. Oh well, If I'm late for work!!!!!! Quote Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karluk29 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 proper car,,,,love the wing Quote OUR CURRENT COLLECITON :- MODIFIED LOTUS ESPRIT, FULL VEILSIDE SUPRA (BEAST 409.3bhp), NEW ADDITON TO THE TROOP, 1996 S CLASS MERC (FULLY PIMPED OUT, DUB EDITION) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyarse Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 What a car - I love the stats about comparing it to a Mclaren F1 (for those who didn't watch) - on a standing start, the Bugatti can wait for the F1 to reach 120mph, then start and STILL beat the F1 to 200 Mph!! Now thats FAST! Quote MK1 Volkswagen Golf Owners Club Well, had to get this one in if anyones interested?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I soooooo hope they have one there at supercar sunday next year. Would love to here the engines running!! Or the Goodwood Festival of Speed? Maybe Lord March will get one for Christmas... Quote May: DON'T hit it with a hammer! Clarkson: Why? May: Cause it's the tool of a pikey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Blanchard Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Would like to see it around the Top Gear track. That Pagini Zonda F was impressive, but they said the Bugatti handles like an Elise, so it should wip it. Quote Mark www.lotusespritturbo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33 ENN Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Now that you've seen a pie in the sky... This is the future: At least, that's my idea of a properly developed supercar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toua Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 the nsx is nice but the new one is even nicer witch more of an aggressive stance and look however i still take the lotus esprit... by the way, in Motor Trend the magazine, the builder of the M F1 was talking about how bad the Bugatti was built the wrong way. He was saying how it went over budget and how heavy it is and all.. real nice article. Ill try to scan it sometime. I see some jealousy here. the zonda is nice.. dream car.. now where can i find a bank to loan me $600,000 dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazmans3 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Now that you've seen a pie in the sky... This is the future: At least, that's my idea of a properly developed supercar... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it may be from Japan, but at least it was developed with Senna's expertise, & as we all know he did drive for Lotus all those years ago. Daz Quote The need for speed can be found with a Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33 ENN Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Well, it may be from Japan, but at least it was developed with Senna's expertise, & as we all know he did drive for Lotus all those years ago. Daz <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know many people think that if it is Japanese, then it can't be as good as a European offering. I have no such issue. A good car is a good car, and the NSX-R is what the Esprit could have been underneath the striking wedge styling. Lotus didn't do that, Honda have, end of. Compared to Lotus specials like the S300/S350, the NSX-R beats them to a pulp in effort to make a customer track car. I'm off for a test drive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit350 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 what a fantastic car such a shame it looks terrible Quote The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. Friedrich Nietzsche find me on Tripadvisor http://www.tripadvis...mbers/espritguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33 ENN Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 what a fantastic car such a shame it looks terrible <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Au contraire... innit as they say in Tokyo. I think it looks far better than this... And at least it's all HONDA.... I showed this Europa to my friend... her comment - besides that its ugly was -, "...it doesn't look like they designed it for old Lotus enthusiasts, more for a new market and new kind of customer." Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit350 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I meant the Bugatti not the nsx Quote The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. Friedrich Nietzsche find me on Tripadvisor http://www.tripadvis...mbers/espritguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33 ENN Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I meant the Bugatti not the nsx <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahh.... Sure... but I'm never gonna buy a bugatti like that. Sure, there are many great looking cars out there for silly money. But I reckon something like the NSX-R or even the new Noble M14 are more likely to be what people who have the Esprit will be able to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toua Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 just curious. where can you order a bugatti? or lets say one day when we all become rich... where would i start to look for one.. (i think the old school EB110 SS is my style) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I dont really like the design of the Veyron either, but I think it will initially be in great demand with Arab Shieks:( As for a 15 yr old car being the future, (NSX) Is it a case of "Back to the Future"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B33 ENN Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I dont really like the design of the Veyron either, but I think it will initially be in great demand with Arab Shieks:( As for a 15 yr old car being the future, (NSX) Is it a case of "Back to the Future"? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I read you right what you are saying is that the NSX is not exactly new compared to what we are talking about in the thread (New Esprit, Bugatti etc). I agree... but I don't aspire to something like the Bugatti or a number of similar products designed for the seriously wealthy. I'd rather have a car designed for its own sake which is good at what it does, and also is reasonable value for money. That's what was always the Esprits strong point, it was a real car, not merely a showpiece or fashion statement. The NSX-R is similar. It's how it drives and makes me feel that is important. It's a great achievement for Honda, as the Esprit was for Lotus. Honda has used the same strong formula of lightness coupled with tuned engines pioneered by Chapman in producing a fast well balanced road car. Add to that recent moves in drive-by-wire thechnology and thats what the NSX is. That's worth appreciating, and to me that's the future. The potential in Honda and others making cars for real drivers in the future is massive. And for a corporate giant to still produce a car with passion and heritage is what's important to me as a buyer of a particular badge or brand. Lotus can't sit on its past reputation and expect to convince people who know the market. There are many other manufacturers of rival products who are using Chapmans ideals to make better sports cars. Lotus has to do more to impress than repeat history - and they do that badly too. Lotus hasn't shown anything worth appreciating lately, they are the same old beancounting minimalist operation they were after Chapman died. No spirit, no passion, no identity. As buyers of Lotus cars, we make enough compromises in quality and identity. If the next Lotus Esprits main parts continue to come from another manufacturer, then I think I'll spend my money elsewhere and keep the old Esprit: They have not moved forward, that's the same as what they were doing 30 yrs ago. Once that was what everyone was doing to an extent in the exotic car market. Now, it's not enough if you want to convince customers that your badge is better than someone elses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazmans3 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I know many people think that if it is Japanese, then it can't be as good as a European offering. I have no such issue. A good car is a good car, and the NSX-R is what the Esprit could have been underneath the striking wedge styling. Lotus didn't do that, Honda have, end of. Compared to Lotus specials like the S300/S350, the NSX-R beats them to a pulp in effort to make a customer track car. I'm off for a test drive... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have absolutely nothing against Japanese cars, They make some excellent cars which are quite often underrated. &, as I drive two Nissan turbos as well, one as my every day car, a Nissan 200sx, I find them fun cars to drive. I esp like the Front engined rear wheel drive configuration. Rear wheel drive will always do it for me, much better than a front engined/drive set up that has to put up with all that under steer. Unless of course it's a Lotus Elan 90's model, they got that one right for some reason! The NSX is a great car & probable their best attempt to date, it Quote The need for speed can be found with a Lotus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teigan Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 the new europa and the nsx look alike to me. they're both wide body kits stuck onto existing cars of the same brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I see what you are getting at BN but all the critism and goading in the world directed at Lotus wont change a thing. The truth is If Lotus could afford to they could build a great car. The sad part is I dont think they will ever be able to manage it unless one of the big profitable manufacturers (Toyota?) buy Lotus, and alow them to actually build a car utilising alot of the state of the art technology that was invented by them. Until then (or the end) they soldier on making the best of what they have(not much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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