braziers 0 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 having problems getting rear pads in. im using ebc yellows. ive done the front fine. ive removed rear calipier and wound the piston clockwise to the stop and it looks as though its right back. i cant get enough clearance to get pads in (ie pads to thick by aprox 3mm ) the pads are ebc part no dp4885 anyone know if this is correct part no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Günter 28 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 if it is for the Elise (maybe..) , why not grind it in shape ? It's just a brake pad after all.. Quote ********************************************************************* to name the things if I see them, that's what I call integrity.. ********************************************************************* Link to post Share on other sites
tinywillyuk 27 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 That part number is correct for Brembo rear calipers which I believe you have? Must admit I didn't have any problems with thickness when I fitted EBCs at the rear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Günter 28 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Steve, can you verify that the piston is nearly on the same hight as the dust seal around ? Quote ********************************************************************* to name the things if I see them, that's what I call integrity.. ********************************************************************* Link to post Share on other sites
Andy67 0 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Steve,Have you taken the top off the brake master cylinder...? Be careful not to let any excess fluid spill out as it is a very effective paint stripper...! You may need to remove some fluid if your old pads were very worn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
braziers 0 Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 yes the piston is right back level with the seal. interestingly enough the calipier slider is butted against it mount and the outside pad still to thick. im now questioning whether the disc is correct ie offset and disk thickness. does anyone know the dimmentions of these (2000 v8) rear discs. brake fluid level is fine but then should be open vent with foot pedel up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Günter 28 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 think as long as you have the rear Brembo set-up, it should be the same since 1994. So don't know exactly that there is an difference within the row up to the V8 !? Have your pads some sort of reinforcing/heat-transferring plates on the back of the main-metal piece ? Have used the original Brembo-pads an EBC-green on my car -and it fits in. So apart from the point that your car is totally build *upside down* on a Monday -no clue on this :getmecote: Quote ********************************************************************* to name the things if I see them, that's what I call integrity.. ********************************************************************* Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Freeman 23 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Question, how does the size compare with those you have removed, worth checking Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
braziers 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 the old pads are worn so i have no way of knowing the original thickness. my rear disc are 30mm thick. does anyone know if this is the correct thickness for this model with brenbo brakes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j900jpw 1 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) Hi, I have the exact same car (but a December 1999 model) - Brembo brakes. My rear discs standard are 22mm with a minimum thickness of 20.4mm. However I have some pattern rear discs (yet to be fitted) from a very reputable Lotus specialist and they like yours are 30mm. I checked with them when I first received them & was informed they will still fit although I may have to discard any anti rattle shims. I now suspect I will have a similar issue to you. I think the 30mm are for the Sport 350. Standard Pads are 9.5mm new with a minimum of 2.5mm Maybe worth measuring your EBC ones? I won't be suprised the worn pads you have now where modified (ground down) to fit. Julian Edited January 6, 2010 by julianwhite Quote Esprit SE-V8 TVR Cerbera V8 4.5 Range Rover V8 Jaguar XJR Suzuki GSXR1100 Honda CR500R Red Rocket ZIP 250 Racing Kart VW Golf GTi Link to post Share on other sites
braziers 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 im starting to think that disc thickness is the issue. ive just read a posting on here back on 04 june 2009 ( topic 2000 + v8 disc specification ) and they mention on there of a 30mm thick disc for the rears and you need to either make the esprit pad thiner or to fit a lotus elise pad ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j900jpw 1 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I agree - however just checking you did manage to screw the pistons back fully home (the auto adjust for the parking brake)? Post your final solution when you find it please as I'm in the same boat! Quote Esprit SE-V8 TVR Cerbera V8 4.5 Range Rover V8 Jaguar XJR Suzuki GSXR1100 Honda CR500R Red Rocket ZIP 250 Racing Kart VW Golf GTi Link to post Share on other sites
braziers 0 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) i have sanded down the pads to fit i had to take off 2mm off each pad to reduce by overall 4mm to get it. this is with no rear shims. pistons were wound clockwise and the pistons was fully home. what you will find is that the disc is only wider to the outside of the car so the calipier slider is shifted outwards to the slider stops hence the outer pad has to be 2mm thiner to go in. sorry if it dosnt sound right but i know what i mean ! jobs done now and working fine just made a longer job of it. Edited January 6, 2010 by braziers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peter_england99 6 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Hi Steve, Well done. If possible, can you please give us some feedback on the Yellow Stuff when they are run in. I currently run Red Stuff and was thinking that I might go to Yellow Stuff next time I change. Regards, Peter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,654 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Peter, I've run yellow stuff pads for the past 6 months are they are top drawer. They're only a tiny bit more expensive than red but better is every aspect with no negatives so get yellow nest time you buy! Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
j900jpw 1 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) Hi, replaced my discs & pads the other day & had this issue with the pads not fitting. Bought a set of pads for the elise (same year) they are identical except 3mm thinner. Used Esprit pad inside of disc, Elise pad outside to manage the thicker disc than standard (30mm instead of 22mm) & offset. Perfect fit Edited May 28, 2011 by julianwhite Quote Esprit SE-V8 TVR Cerbera V8 4.5 Range Rover V8 Jaguar XJR Suzuki GSXR1100 Honda CR500R Red Rocket ZIP 250 Racing Kart VW Golf GTi Link to post Share on other sites
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