PierreLP Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1281659 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookiecj Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Gosh, that's really scary stuff... I've never seen the inside of any engine in that sort of a state, even ones which have been well past their service intervals for either time or mileage! Mileage between changes? Stick with what the book says and use the recommended lubricants and you should be fine. Reduce the interval and you should minimise wear and tear but it's a trade off between cost, maintenance time/downtime and benefits. It's your call really, within limits. Quote In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.<br /><br />In practice, there is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 New engine ? Looks like fuel contamination of the oil... Suprised it kept running ! Quote facebook = [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 My initial thought was what kind of oil adative did he put in there, advertised to prolong milage between oil changes. As to kleening it, I'm not sure I should admit to this but in my youth (and very poor) I seem to recall running up an engine on idle to operating temprature for about 20 mins on parafin oil to flush all the oilways, it worked Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshcut Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Without reading through all 50 million pages of that posting, I'm just curious what prompted the guy to have the engine looked at. All that sludge that appeared to be in the oil pan almost certainly had to plug up the pickup tube long ago I'd have thought. I can just hear it now...."Well, it just doesn't run like it used to." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted April 19, 2010 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yup - had one like that a few years ago. Ford Escort 1.6CVH. Punters said it was gutless and difficult to start. When I got there I took the rocker cover off and found much the same as that pic. I managed to start it (cover off as no oil was going to fly around!) and the engine actually seized as I was watching it - no exaggeration. They'd bought it new and had done 58000 miles in it without a single service. They didn't know what a dipstick was. I told them how much a new engine would cost and they didn't bat an eyelid - just told me to do it, whatever the cost. I put a new one in and told them they must get back to me for oil service intervals. Never heard from them since. More money than sense! Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red vtec Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Think I better change my oil..... Quote Amateurs built the Ark Professionals built the Titanic "I haven't ridden in cars pulled by cows before" "Bullocks, Mr.Belcher" "No, I haven't, honestly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegtst Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 When i used to work for a ford dealer i was servicing a fiesta with a 1.3 ohc engine that was worse than that. The sludge in the rocker box was so bad the rockers had made prints in it, you could even read the part numbers in the sludge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red vtec Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 If you run enough oil through it and do changes will it clear out? Quote Amateurs built the Ark Professionals built the Titanic "I haven't ridden in cars pulled by cows before" "Bullocks, Mr.Belcher" "No, I haven't, honestly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matk Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Yeah that's exactly what I was wondering. Is it reversible or permanent? Quote Regards Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 The first thing I did with mine when recieved in OZ was a compression check, not good 127 / 119 / 128 / 135. The oil was crap and god knows how long it had been in there. After the 2nd oil and filter change the compressions were 139 / 139 / 139 / 139. Sometimes you get lucky. Actual oil pressure is if anything a bit higher than I would like. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted April 20, 2010 Gold FFM Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 If you run enough oil through it and do changes will it clear out? Depends on the value of the engine, but from a business point of view, I wouldn't waste time trying to rescue it as the cost of failure would be too high. If it were mine, I might give it a go. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshcut Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 You might have to flush before each oil change. There are some solvent additives that can be used within the last few minutes before an oil change, typically when warming the engine at idle prior to draining the oil that can help to break up the sludge. I would not however rely on that as a general course of maintenance. I guess looking at these pictures one can truly see the importance in using high quality oils and frequent changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Should have used Giugiaro oil! Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifly Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 The pictures and this thread have rather unusually made me hungry for treacle toffee! Quote Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by the Italians. You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot You think professional is expensive, just wait until you pay for amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbers Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jeez! Maybe they used grease instead of oil? I still know people who don't service their cars. My Step sister is the perfect example. You'd think with our dad she'd be more careful but so far gone through 3 cars and their engines. Every one seized! She now has a new BMW Z3. I suspect that will go the same way. BTW she's proud shes never had a service as they are "A rip off!" and "the cars were cheap and a service a waste of money". Glad she's only killing Beemers!! Quote Possibly save your life. Check out this website.http://everyman-campaign.org/ Distributor for 'Every Male' grooming products. (Discounts for any TLF members hairier than I am!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshcut Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Doesn't BMW offer free scheduled maintenance during the warranty period, or is that a US only deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifly Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Blake we get 4 years or 50,000 miles, in Europe your mileage varies but I think its only 2 years in most countries on Beemers. Also in the US you get the option to purchase another 2 years or 50,000 miles that tacks onto the end of your full maintenance warranty. Quote Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by the Italians. You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot You think professional is expensive, just wait until you pay for amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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