Window Switches, cant find them anywhere

[Jonathan 12]

I know they are off a GM part, their PN's are :

GM 90 282 846

GM 90 282 847

GM 90 282 849

Lotus PN A100M6007F

They are £55 from SJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I need 2 of 'em

AFAIK they were off a vauxhall but everyone I have seen is not the same, the surround is not as large as the one on the Esprit / Elan

Any clues....they must have been issued to something other than the Lotus ?

Edited May 5, 2010 by Jonathan

[s4simon 132]

Jonathan, I often looked for these in the UK when i was there, but could never find the right Vauxhall.

Just did a search here in Oz and came up with these.

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Might be worth just grabbing these to check the size..

[superdavelotus 120]

Try Vauxhall Calibra if not then try Tigra, I know interior door handle and grab handle are from a Calibra and the roof mounted aerial is off a Tigra.

If you get really stuck then they are also used in TVR's. You can buy aluminium covers from them. I was going to list on my site but they are far too dear.

Here's a pic of the cover. The switch looks the same to me.

I have the later 98 onwards window switches but they are no use to you sorry.

Regards,

David Walters

[tinywillyuk 13]

Jon,

I found some - exactly the right part including the surrounding bezel - on a 92/J plate Cavalier in the scrappy. If I recall, the browny colour featured on Cavs with beige interiors.

Hope that helps?

[superdavelotus 120]

Hi Jonathan,

Here's a quick update. They are definately off a Vauxhall Tigra 1994-2000. If found a pair on Ebay for £18 (£9 each). Is that cheap enough for you?

Here's a picture.

Let me know how you get on.

Regards,

David Walters

More info. As for other makes of car like the Cavalier, you need to locate the rear door switches rather than the front door is my memory serves me right.

Tigra switches again 3 for £10.50?

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item5d2681f0e8

Astra Mk3 switch but this ones £19.99

Cavalier and Astra rear for £7.50

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item518e3c7c4c

If you fancy some nice blue LED lit ones for £27.99 for set of 3 then look here

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item45f19ecc79

I think that should be enough to keep you happy!

David

[ramjet 710]

So it's a serious question then. I was going to say you'll find them on the centre console near the gear lever.

That's where mine are...

If you'd like, I could contact Holden over here for the price of the parts. The mirror control is straight out of a Commodore albeit without the yellow light and the Tigra is here as well. I'll bet the parts are cheaper here. Let us know if you want me to Jonathon.

Edited May 5, 2010 by ramjet

[mangel 0]

Vauxhall camel's ear H through to L reg definitely!!

[Jonathan 12]

Thanks for your efforts mon chummys

I spent about 2 hrs looking yesterday, coupled with about 3 hrs looking for a douple pole double relay that didn't seem to exist (*hawwwww*) so it is appreciated.

Dave - thanks for your efforts but if you look carefully they're not the ones

I was just about to buy a Tigra one (watching them on eBay atm) but the surround is much smaller, I thought Lotus had a cap cast for it until I also found out the PN was different, which could mean the wiring is different too !

Here's the refrence:

It's close but the surround is much smaller.

The only 2 cars I know that had them were the Esprit and Elan.

Looks like Lotus tapped it from the Aussie arm of GM then

[s4simon 132]

Ebay

I'll grab these as they look exactly the same as the ones off the S4.

I reckon new from GM they look around AU$40 ea. As a guess.

Edited May 5, 2010 by s4simon

[waynef 0]

Same boat as you jonathan one grey one greyish brown.

Lotus quoted me £114 ea so SJ is the way to go....

It sucks that such a basic old switch can cost this

[Advantage 632]

Aren't they Carlton switches?

[Jonathan 12]

Not that I can see.

£114 !!! that's such a piss take, thats just absolutly ridiculous.

If you're that struck for one I might try and cast the bezel from my existing ones and glue them onto the tigra's IF the switch contacts are the same.

Even the Aus ones are silly over priced...infact, looking at the switch all it will need is am imprint in some latex to cast it.

No promises but I'll see what I can do, punch them out for £110 hahahah

[superdavelotus 120]

Hi Jonathan,

Sorry the Tigra is slightly different. Have you looked ino the TVR route? I will keep looking.

As people as suffering a bit I might look into sourcing them. At £55 that's a rip off. They need to be half this price. It's only a GM part afterall.

Will let you know what I come up with.

David

[Jonathan 12]

Cheers Dave, I was about to buy them before I looked at the GT3 itself when I saw they were different - it's padantic I know but I kinda want the right thing.

I still think the tigra ones with a casting over the top will do the job.

[Paul93Lotus 7]

Pretty sure they are off of a Senator. I believe rear seat ones.

[s4simon 132]

I'll continue the investigation this end. I bought the ones off ebay so will see how close they are. I'll also get the new price off GM as they are just around the corner from me (100metres away).

[sailorbob 97]

The Tigra drivers door switches are very similar to the Esprits but they are different; the 4 wires are soldered onto the connections with about 20cm of wiring to the connectors (which are different to the Esprits).

The Tigra passenger door switch is a bit different to the drivers side, it is similarly soldered but there are 6 wires and it has a flat bezel.

[tinywillyuk 13]

Random thought - and Ive read the thread to make sure its not been asked and didnt see it - but have you called a Vauxhall dealer with the part numbers to see if they have them still?

[s4simon 132]

Well I've received the parts. And although they are exactly the same size and fit, their functioning (and amount of connections) is a little different.

With the new one installed using the same connector, when I open the door, the window goes down - weird.

Part number from Lotus factory fit switch: GM 90 282 849 BR (Made in West Germany).

Part number from GM car factory fit: 92045 SS1PI.

I'll get the new price of the Lotus GM part number from Holden (GM) shortly.

Pic below of the two switches with the Lotus switch on the right. The switch on the left has an extra terminal external to the standard connector.

Edited May 12, 2010 by s4simon

[sailorbob 97]

The Tigra switches are about 2/3rds the size of the Esprit switches.

[s4simon 132]

Okay - Update from GM (Holden) in OZ.

This particular part is manuf. by GM in Germany, and a such is a Euro part, and only available in Europe. The Oz variant made in the gazillions has the same body and fits perfectly, but different switching internals.

My Lotus switch casing was broken but the switching mechanism was fine so I just swapped the body over. Lighting LED is green and case is black for the Oz variant, so I'll have to change over the passenger side as well. Cost to fix - UK4 pounds per switch. Remembering that these are second hand but have minimal use as they're fitted as standard to rear windows only of family cars.

Edited May 15, 2010 by s4simon

[s4simon 132]

Here's a pic of the new switches in place. These of course are black compared to the grey Lotus originals. Also the led light is green rather than white.

[Paul93Lotus 7]

I have to laugh that my post (#15) on this was completely ignored.  I just purchased a REAR window switch from an early 90's Vauxhall Senator and it is the exact Lotus Esprit S4 part. CONFIRMED.  Also likely the same for the Elan.

[MPx 134]

Yes Paul....its the same switch as the M100 and indeed the Vauxhall Carlton of the time, including the Lotus Carlton (front and back).

[Herbert 8]

Has anyone found window switches that will work in a Stevens Esprit? I don't mind doing some modifications if necessary..