nichop Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hi fellow lotus owners. If you frequent Seloc then you may have already read this in which case, apologies. Bell & Colville a few days ago confirmed that the Lotus trim shop is to close which I think is very bad news. The existence of a trim shop at the factory is quite unique to Lotus and sets them apart from other sports car manufacturers. I'd also personally much rather have my refurbs done at the factory than an independent. We have started a petition which I will very shortly be sending to Lotus. If you feel the same as the 122 other Elise and Elan owners who have already signed the petition, please add your vote and comment to the online petition, found here :- http://www.myonlinepetition.com/petition/340/Keep+Lotus+trim+shop+open/ thanks Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Cannon Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Done. Quote In the garage no-one can hear you scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red vtec Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Done Quote Amateurs built the Ark Professionals built the Titanic "I haven't ridden in cars pulled by cows before" "Bullocks, Mr.Belcher" "No, I haven't, honestly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynv Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkelite Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Done. DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I wonder if Mr Baha will take 5 or 10 seconds to click 'delete'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppa Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Done Quote Normally Aspirated - and lovin' it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAR Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I would like to add my name to the petition but..... it is highly unlikely that I would ever use their services. Asking them to keep a facility which I won't use may not be wise, given the current economic climate. Quote It's getting there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I wonder if Mr Baha will take 5 or 10 seconds to click 'delete'? Course it won't mate. He has a history of selling bits off, making money, and moving on. In five years time he'll have left the company an even wealthier man than when he joined it, as thats what he does, Thats all he does, You can't stop him! (err that might be the terminator but you get the idea, thats what his career is built on). I voted for the trimshop anyhow, while it might not save them, a big petition will look good on their CV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket63 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I may be cynical, but you might be better engaging their services en masse if you want to make a difference. Its a business not a charity ! I wonder just how many of us would use this as an after market facility ? If not, what are you petitioning ? Quote Caught between a rock and a hard place in a catch 22 situation, So its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Your damned if you do, but your damned if you don't so shut your cock!!!!!!!!!!! Lotus Espirt Turbo S3 Lotus Esprit S4 Lotus Elise S2 Sport 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I've signed, not because I will ever use it but because it'll be the service centre next, and all the things that say Lotus care about the ongoing ownership of their vehicles. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obione Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I will not bother to sign this – they have clearly made up their mind to close the trim shop, and a petition will just be a waste of time I’m afraid... Quote This book is guaranteed to NOT change your life…but it does mention a Lotus Esprit...To enjoy this masterpiece, download Martin now. Simples!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujolais Dom Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Very sad news, and as a previous post said, the loss of one of the unique facets of Lotus. Have the trim shop guys considered an MBO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbers Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Sadly, I think this could be the tip of the iceberg. Whats next? Service Centre? Engineering? Out sourcing parts again? I have signed the petition. It's a shame that no attempt to market the trim shop globally, has been made. It's easier to say something doesn't work, and blame economics, when you haven't even tried to build it as a business. Engineering started small like this and is now a global leader of Engineering worldwide. I don't think Mr Bahar will listen in the slightest, like Paul says, he is there for one reason only and it has nothing to do with Lotus History, keeping jobs in Norfolk and the UK, or developing the company. It's all about one thing. Quote Possibly save your life. Check out this website.http://everyman-campaign.org/ Distributor for 'Every Male' grooming products. (Discounts for any TLF members hairier than I am!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenGT3 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Spoke to a guy at last Sunday's Henham Wings & Wheels about this, his Esprit HC apparently was the last car to trimmed fully (looked absolutely fantastic), he said they were stopping. Apparently all work from what he said will be directed to people like Nick Fulcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Anyone who hasn't signed this, please do so now. I'm going to send a email to every one of our members shortly, all 8,300 of them! Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingoking Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Although I don't need trim work done on my cars at this time if I did the Lotus trim shop would be my first port of call. They might not be the cheapest, they might not be the best but I like Lotus and that's why I bought the cars, they might not be the cheapest, they might not be the best but I like the brand and always have. It is probably down to economics but if this closes what will be next, the service department, driver training and will they stop the Factory visits and gatherings. Quote Join Lotus Enthusiasts Group Scotland here! and on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 You'd be very surprised at the prices, they are very reasonable in fact. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingoking Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Maybe they are too reasonable if it is an economic decision to close. Quote Join Lotus Enthusiasts Group Scotland here! and on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeller77 Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Signed. Apparently all work from what he said will be directed to people like Nick Fulcher. Could be worse, good for Nick, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackmagic Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Dear Lotus, Focus on the customer and the dollars will flow. Focus on the dollar and the customers will GO! Best, Jeff Quote www.espritturbo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Günter Posted May 25, 2010 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 would say: *The new Lotus CEO should think about what handcrafted British Automobile manufacturing stands for...* Quote ********************************************************************* to name the things if I see them, that's what I call integrity.. ********************************************************************* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I'm with Paul, the only way to keep a service like this open in a commercial organisation is to have it make profit, or at the least, make such a small loss that it is out-weighed in the benefit it gives to other aspects of the company by its presence. Lotus will probably just out-source trim work, so I'm sure those in the trim shop will be OK, and I really hope that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Like i said, i signed as i think a list of thousands of people saying how good you are is a good thing for the guys to have on their CV regardless of what happens to the trim shop (my money is it will be axed to fund a really swanky desk/ swivel chair combo for the new CEO's norwich penthouse). My Elise S1 is not going to keep the trim shop busy for more than five minutes anyway. But the fact they offer GOOD prices should be shouted about more (by them) as people, as on this thread, assume the factory shop will be an expensive option. The new owner of my old S3 shopped around suffolk for retrim prices, tried Lotus last, and took it to them as they were cheapest. Excellent job they did too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony K Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Bibs -- I don't know if they already do this, but in order to keep it open, offer a program similar to the "Sonderwunsch" (sp?) department at Porsche, where they will do just about any interior for a customer for a price. In other words, if you don't like the colors offered for a 911, Cayman, whatever, you can pay big money to have them do it any way you want. Ferrari does this for some of their customers, too (hint hint, Dany-boy). Porsche does it for paint and interior; Lotus trim shop could become the factory special shop for made-to-order interiors. - Tony p.s. will sign petition this evening . . . Quote Tony K. Esprit S1s #355H & 454H Esprit S2.2 #324J 1991 Esprit SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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