Kimbers Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Why send Proton Engineers when Lotus engineers are recognised as masters in their field? Surely they would be better and understand where the crossover between race and road could come? Quote Possibly save your life. Check out this website.http://everyman-campaign.org/ Distributor for 'Every Male' grooming products. (Discounts for any TLF members hairier than I am!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Lotus will be sending engineers to Enstone and vice versa, about 30 of them was the first idea. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploded Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Lotus will be sending engineers to Enstone and vice versa, about 30 of them was the first idea. And that proves what? Nothing to me! It does not mean if you send someone that it'll pay off, or that you have any influence on design or anything on the F1 car at all. And I can not imagine what single would be better on a Lotus road car, compared to Reanult F1 car. That is just a litte (cheap) trick to soothe the people. Well Bahar has lied about almost everything, if not everything, so why not adding another lie as well about some engineers? One lie more, or one lie less, what's the difference? To our Tukish friend it's all the same. The only thing for him to do, to make up with his lies is to bring a state-of-the-art car. And not that "new" Esprit that is coming next year, that will only have a new bodyshell, the chassis was already there under MJK, quite a lot (fired) people are happy to admit that. The others are afraid to lose their jobs. The major work has already been done when the Turk came in. And building a new (reliable) V8 in just 1 year, makes me laugh, it will be a rebadged engine for sure. Even Bahar has figured out already that no one with a normal mind and little bit of common sense, will buy the far too expensive "new" Esprit. They have to sell around 1000 units a year, but let me remember that last V8 Esprits were sold for a bit more than half the money we are talking about, and yet Lotus could only attract around 150 people a year to buy one... I give up on the people who don't see the real big (Turkish) issue here. I don't want to visit 100 parts fairs just to find parts in a few years, so please make hime leave... And Renault can be Renault again. or should I say Lada Renault, as their sticker is almost the same size as the one from Lotus... we are the laugh in town, everyone I know is telling me: hey,great Lada you have... Bahar should be ashamed to put our favourite logo almost next to the Lada logo! Edited February 7, 2011 by Exploded Quote Calypso Rose Rules the World! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hard to see what engineers will learn (other than how to deliver to strict time scales!) I believe that the tartan weave carbon / kevlar chassis that Lotus had when they last made black and gold cars was really cutting edge. They were hand in glove with the road car company, but Lotus never moved to be THE carbon composite car manufacturerWhen are the Enstone engineers going to have time to go to Hethel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbers Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Gert. I'm pretty sure they didn't know what else would be associated with them when they decided to sponsor Renault....Though I bet they were disappointed when they saw that, from the side at least, you can't even see Lotus, all you see is Lada. As for the Engineers thing I was sure they talked about Proton Engineers not Lotus. Nevermind, not important really. Quote Possibly save your life. Check out this website.http://everyman-campaign.org/ Distributor for 'Every Male' grooming products. (Discounts for any TLF members hairier than I am!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploded Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Gert. I'm pretty sure they didn't know what else would be associated with them when they decided to sponsor Renault....Though I bet they were disappointed when they saw that, from the side at least, you can't even see Lotus, all you see is Lada It came from "The Turk" again that Petrov was their favorite for the position of 2nd driver, and he brought Lada with him last year, what was going to be different? So they knew it from the start! So it is my point exactly: you can't even see any prove of "Lotus" from the side, except from the www.lotusrenault.com address in (very) small font. Yet again big marketing errors, from, and all that from a marketing guru... Edited February 8, 2011 by Exploded Quote Calypso Rose Rules the World! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Look on the side of the red car and the only clue is a web address in a small font Not all cars are like the Red Bull (there is even less "Lotus" on the Team Lotus car) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyPeacock Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Look on the side of the red car and the only clue is a web address in a small font Not all cars are like the Red Bull (there is even less "Lotus" on the Team Lotus car) I really don't like it when teams plaster their car with their own badge, that badge on the Ferrari is hideous Quote What is the difference between an overtake and a crash? An overtake is a crash that never happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Ride Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Quote Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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