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I personally think it is due to 2 factors:

The 996 will not be considered a future classic in the same fold as the other models in due to the fact::

1) First of the water cooled engines rather then air cooled

2) The teardrop lights differentiated with what was the classic Porsche design and also looked like a Boxster from the front which was essentially a lesser modell. Hence they changed to the Turbo style light later on known as 996 Gen 2.

It is also the way that the 993 commands much higher premiums as it is the last of the air cooled versions on the 911.

In some ways its similar to why the S1 Elise will always be saught after more than the S2. As such will command even higher premiums when the years go on.

Cheers

George

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Plus the 996 has some potentialy serious issues with the engine on early cars. Again similar to the V8 Esprit in that the reputaion of early engines being fragile has cast a cloud on the engine reliability, however they can be overcome. Mostly dropping liners and liners that crack. This doesn't however apply to the 996 Turbo or GT2, GT3 as they are a different design.

Trevor.

I'll get around to it at some point.

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Is that your grandfather I can hear spinning at 13,000 rpm?

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Have been covering miles and looking at cars.

Came to realise that i'm looking at 25 year old cars with 100,000 miles on them, and to accept the 'things to look for' will be there, found this pretty tidy car just 30 miles away. Bit dark but thats how it was getting home.

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Plus point is the interior, it's ace, no money to spend.

It will need a front wing/wings at some point but i've got that covered as the asking was £14,000 and i paid £11,500 to cover a bit of body fetting.

I've got bags of history, new brakes and clutch, original tools, first aid etc.

The REAL selling point is that Bob Watson, a very local specialist that i had already made contact with and visited, has been looking after this car and it is known to him. I was able to chat to someone who has worked on it and able to view the car while on the phone to ask how much various things cost. This enabled me to get £2,500 off asking, on the basis that i will genuinely go on to spend at least that on the car this year. Have possible found some original fuch's to replace the later rims fitted too.

It feels great to be in a classic car again. My S3 esprit was always a classic to me but my SE Esprit and Elise were too young to feel like that (but in time they will be), the car has that kind of old smell to it that only G shape Esprits seem to have.

Lovely change, but so different from Lotus feel, driving it is like wrestling a chimp. The thing i can really understand is how the 'in the wet' legend has come about. Tonight it was dry and i was STAGGERED how grippy the rear end was and how fast it would corner, the engine weight on those rear tyres just gave it so much grip. I am under no illusions what would happen if that grip was lost (try throwing a dart backwards).

I'm absolutely buggered if i can work out the heater controls, there are about four sliders and wheel to turn, and some weird sensor thing. Need to get an english handbook. One of the good things is i'm back to owning a car i can get my mates wheelchair into so we can do stuff again.

Well happy. I was really stuck with the 'i want a new car but it has to have a Lotus badge' thing, i don't owe lotus a key fob at the end of the day and it really limited my choice more than i would allow it too. I just know i'll never regret owning two Lotus Esprits, a lotus Elise, and an Air cooled 911.

:D

Bibs, you are right, i do feel i should pop over to north Eygpt kick and my grandads headstone over...

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Bibs, you are right, i do feel i should pop over to north Eygpt kick and my grandads headstone over...

Pick you up on the bypass in an hour?

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I always hated Porsches growing up, my brother liked them and I Liked lotus.

The past few years or so I'd say I've started to get a feeling for them. That car you have now I would never have even lifted my head up for but now I have a like for it, I think it looks ace, curvy, muscly, almost butch like. I'm surprised Kimbers doesn't go around sniffing them given his current trend, maybe be does in a discreet 'dogging' in the carparks type way when Whendy is in work on nights.

I like it a lot, I'm glad your happy with it!

Chunky Lover

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Paul,

Congratulations on the purchase. Looks like you have a good one, even better once all the work has been done.

Hopefully this helps you fathom out the heater controls - SC Heater Controls

Reading that I am glad that they changed the design in the 964 across to just 2 sliders. Who said that German car are always designed for ideal erganomics - that just confusing IMHO.

Cheers

George

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Hopefully this helps you fathom out the heater controls - SC Heater Controls

Reading that I am glad that they changed the design in the 964 across to just 2 sliders. Who said that German car are always designed for ideal erganomics - that just confusing IMHO.

Cheers

George

Christ, i was trying to work out the four levers, sensor and winding wheel, now i look and see as this guide suggests there are a further two levers between the seats!!!

"For heat pull the floor levers up and all the panel control levers to the left to give you max heat to the floor. If you need heat on the windshield move the bottom (usually red) panel lever to the right. If you want a floor & windshield mix put the bottom panel lever in the middle.The floor levers also control the heater blower fan (in engine compartment). About halfway through the lever motion it will turn on the blower fan. Without the blower fan on you should get less heat flow. The top panel lever controls the fresh air supply and fresh air blower fan. Top lever to the left is fresh air fan off, to the right fresh air fan max on. If you have two upper levers the left is fresh air vent control and the right is fresh air fan control. (Both upper levers still to the left for max heat). The Middle panel lever (usually blue) directs the fresh air flow. Left for floor or right for the windshield and side vents. Close the side vents to maximize air to floor or window. I think this applies to heat or fresh air..."

I did not have a hope in hell of sussing that out while driving (not that i've really got it now!), cheers for the info, i'll have to get and english owner book.

Booking it in now for MOT and 12,000 mile service, it does not need that level service but it's the kind of thing i do when i get a new car, know it's mechanically alltogether.

You guys have been pretty kind so far...

'pity the fool'?

Nah! I've owned Lotus cars for thirteen years, if i ate my favorite meal every night for thirteen years i'd get sick of it and want something else, do the whole sweetshop i say!

:D

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So when will you be buying Italian?

Nice car by the way, My mates dad had the first 911 to come into the country when I was a kid, I can remeber lifting the dust cover to look at it.

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Porsche ,"na" there to common for me,the bloke(who I did not know until i got the Lotus)up the road from me has a new 911 and every time he see's me outside with the Lotus he stops and talks,cant see that happening if it was a Porsche on the drive.

Dont get me wrong they are good cars,just to common for me :shuriken:

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Nice cars! I like the old Porsches too...944, 928 or the older 911 and the older ones are not as common as the new ones. I live in south Germany and last weekend we were on a trip with the Lotus... In the four hours we counted 13x nineeleven - all the newer ones - so nothing special at all... But the old Turbos you can´t see very often...

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Been out in it all morning, did not see another Porsche of any flavour which did suprise me. Common is subjective, over the last 13 years of taking my cars to meets the most common cars i have seen are Lotus cars, i've seen hundreds and hundreds of them, very often the same cars over and over again. Of course 911's are way more common, they built millions of them, i've just looked at less of them.

Well probably millions, in fact i've got no idea. Vicki asked last night and i realised i have no idea:

What BHP my car has.

What it's top speed is.

What it's 0-60 is.

And i still have not looked it up as i type. Maybe i'm less bothered about stats than i was? Thinking about it i've no idea what the 0-60 or top end was on the Elise. God i'd be crap at top trumps!

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"Lovely change, but so different from Lotus feel, driving it is like wrestling a chimp."

Can you describe the difference a bit closer please... Never drove an classic Porsche - so would be interestet in the differences - especially compared to the SE - of course :thumbup:

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