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Does anyone now what year rear seatbelts were fitted as standard on Elite/Eclats? My 1980 has the rear mounting plates and the slots in the side cards, but doesn't appear to have ever had and belts fitted - were they an option, or have they been removed?

I've replaced the mounting plates with stainless ones as they were rotten but am now torn as to whether or not to fit lap belts. If they were origionally fitted, I will refit for legal purposes, but if not I'd rather not cluter the seats. I'll rarely be carrying passengers in the back anyway.

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I'd fit them Steve. It feels a bit weird being in a seat without belts nowdays. Like yours, mine didn't have them (mine is an 80, but had the mounts. I swapped them for stainless ones from lotus bits and went for retractable lap belts from ebay. If you go for the retractable ones, they don't really clutter the seats.

I have young children, so it was necessary. I use the lap belt with a lapbelt approved child seat (britax prince), which fits snuggly. My wife was also not keen on being in the back without a belt.

Minimal cost and worth fitting if anyone is ever going to sit in the back. You've already done the hard bit if you've changed the mounts.

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yep, there is room, its a tight squeeze, but retractables do fit, and look like they were made for the job.

got them from ebay, seller was capitalseating.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-Retractable-Lap-Seat-Belt-Fixing-Kit-/350216697142?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item518a8ab536

hows the car coming along? any chance of it coming to visit its v8 bretheren any time soon?

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Elites here in the US were all equipped with retractable (inertia reel) seat belts standard in the rear seats from the very first. Without belts, the car could not be advertised as having rear seats by our safety regulations, in order to leave them off, that area would have needed to be advertised as "cargo space".

Maybe rear belts could be sourced from the US!? ...now that"s ironic!

Cliff

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Hmmm - now inertia's would certainly be a neater alternative to fixed, I assume the inertia reel fits behind the panel and the buckle pokes up between the seat and the centre tunnel?

How's it coming along - slowly - I tack welded the rear exhaust sections in some free time over the weekend then took one off to make the seems gas tight, only to find on refitting that it has moved and no longer fits, the wonders of thermal expansion! So I'll have to cut it and start again with that side and put multiple tacks on the remaining side before taking off to complete.

Stiil got to wire it, plumb the heater and expansion tank and build the Atlas rear diff before it will go anywhere, then the interia will sorting, nothing to bad,just the normal sagging mouldy roof and a good leather clean required. Oh and I need to check the door beams as both doors seem to drag on the catches - could just need adjusting, but probably not :thumbdown:

Regards Steve

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Rear belts were options all the way to the end of production, hard to imagine now but I remember having to retro-fit on C-plate cars.

The Lotus standard fit was inertia, so I don't know why specialists like SJ/Lotusbits etc persist in selling messy fixed belts. These were Lotus kit;

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In the garage no-one can hear you scream 

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I've gone for a set of these with webbing straps as was concerned that the shorter metal metal straps might dig into the hips of passengers being that the seats are fairly snug to start with.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320577790369&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Regards Steve

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I am in the need to retrofit the belts too... Is it possible to "mix" the system? A retractable 2point belt with a fixed buckle of the Excel?

 

I dont want to have the buckle flipping in the back on normal Lotus cornering speed. So I thought this solution

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could be a good way?

 

Any opinions, experiences?

 

Don

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I am in the need to retrofit the belts too... Is it possible to "mix" the system? A retractable 2point belt with a fixed buckle of the Excel?

 

I dont want to have the buckle flipping in the back on normal Lotus cornering speed. So I thought this solution

IMG_2809.JPG

could be a good way?

 

Any opinions, experiences?

 

Don

Looking at the pictures higher up on the thread of a pair of new two point lap rear belts. They look remarkably the same as VW Golf Mk1 Cabriolet rear belts. There are currently plenty of these cars being broken for spares on eBay and as they are used so rarely I would consider them perfectly safe s/hand, cheap too.

As for the tongue fitting the existing receiver this would be a matter of experimentation.

 

1986 was the magic year that all new British cars had to be fitted with rear belts. Also around this time, or mabe a couple of years earlier, wing repeater indicators and hazard warning lights were introduced as compulsory although many cars were fitted with them as standard anyway.

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On 12/07/2011 at 21:35, Steve Cook said:

I've gone for a set of these with webbing straps as was concerned that the shorter metal metal straps might dig into the hips of passengers being that the seats are fairly snug to start with.

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320577790369&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

Regards Steve

Steve, which version from whom did you install in the end? Do you have any pictures from the install ? Are you satisfied with it after all?

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