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My girlfriend's boss was the one jumping out of the Mustang. Seen too many deaths at Duxford so I was very happy to see that they both walked away from this - bloody lucky the skyraiders wing didn't fold either !!!

Strange way to peel off if you ask me....

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I really hate second guessing a pilot's split second decision process from the comfort of a keyboard, but has anyone interviewed this fellow on the "flyability" of the aircraft immediately following the collision? Most of the lifting surfaces seemed to still be intact. I assume the guy was proficient at aerobatic manuevers (and "unusual attitudes" recoveries), so was it perhaps a binding controls issue?

And on a separate note, are "warbirds" insured for air shows, or are you on your own? A P51 in good nick is pushing $2,000,000. Ouch!

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To be fair John, in Rob Davies defence he probably hadn't a clue what happened - I've seen 5 deaths at old warbird events and I'm glad I didnt see another.

The way I see it when the skyraider smashes into his underside the Mustang pilot just thinks 1 thing, getting out - the canopy goes almost right away as the plane starts to lose control. It looks like it regains but I just wonder how much he's thinking get out whilst he still can.

I've seen it all before, people try and rescue manouvers that you'd think are possible in modern and similar sized prop planes and end up never getting out becuase these old birds are not anywhere near as capable as the aircracft the pilots are used to flying.

The guys in the Fairy firefly and the Mosquito that crashed there tried to rescue their manouvers and didn't walk away.

As sad as it is to lose a plane like that, I think he done the right thing and covered his ass.

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Wow indeed.

Is it a case of - I'm hit, get canopy off ASAP, then see whats what and if no-go, bail out?

Or do you think the whole time was spend getting out?

Makes you think how different the modern aircraft are to eject from - just one lever and its all done.

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Undoing the harness should, under normal 'G' conditions be a sinch but getting yourself away from the plane is the problem. Spit pilots used to turn the plane upside down and fall out!

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Thanks for the further explanation (and better video), Pete. For a few seconds it looks almost as if Rob had recovered from what was obviously quite a jolt. It makes me wonder if he was holding the stick at full travel with partial controls, just before it noses over into the dive again. Either what he was "holding" snapped, or he figured it wasn't landable in that condition and it nosed over when he released the stick as he scrambled out of the cockpit.

Johnathan, there's no way I would question the man's decision to bail out under low altitude duress, just trying to get more info on what limitations he was dealing with. It may very well be the case that he had no controls at all following the collision (per Pete's "cable runs" comment), and the apparent "recovery" was simply an aerodynamic fluke event. Hope he's had a chance to change his skivvies!

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