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Just thinking, maybe we should close this thread and start a new one "Lotus in the JMG era" - in the hope that it will be a long and prosperous one.

Good hair but that last sentence earns him a kick in the balls next time I see him, what a knob.   http://www.sapu.net/want-a-e1m-car-like-nothing-else-on-the-road-dany-bahars-your-man/  

Yup, and it would be niggle free from lessons learnt from 5 years of Evora. Offer different engines/transmission packages... 1.6-1.8 turbo 3.5 Supercharged from Evora/Exige How can something th

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Dany Bahar is the name that shall not be spoken in Lotus circles, but the man himself has already moved onto other projects and the first is a new tuning house called Ares... like the mythical Greek god of war.

Based in Modena, Italy—a location already familiar to Bahar from his time at Ferrari—Bahar brings with him several personnel key to his previous Lotus plans, including a designer and a selection of managers. According to Car and Driver, 26-year old designer Mihai Panaitescu previously helped with four of the five future-Lotus proposals conceptualized under Bahar's tenure at the company, and is now tasked with reimagining several high-end luxury and sports cars at Ares.

Ares will work on high-end cars like the Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, Aston Martin Rapide S and Vanquish, and the Bentley Continental GT. In future, Ares will also apply its touch to the Lamborghini Huracán, Rolls-Royce Ghost and Rolls-Royce Wraith. Some of these will move beyond mere body kits and into the realms of reworked body styling—a shooting brake Aston Martin Rapide and Bentley Continental GT have both been proposed.

Also part of the Ares team is ex-AMG and ex-Lotus man Wolf Zimmerman, who adds that in addition to modified production cars, Ares is "also looking forward to building its own cars in the future". That could take the form of a mid-engined supercar, revealed in a brief Ares video, but given Bahar's old Lotus plans the sky is pretty much the limit. Unsurprisingly, the company will at first concentrate on markets like Russia, China and the Middle East but the company does reveal it has an "experienced, successful" partner in the U.S, ready to move into the market in 2015.

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The first will be called "the Fog", followed by "the Mist" followed by "the Specter". All vaporware cars that can't seem to really materialize or be grasped.   :hrhr:

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Once upon a time, in the land of Razzle Dazzle, there lived a an iconoclastic elf named Dany, who took great delight in creating mythical carriages, powered by invisible contrivances that only he could see. These carriages, which were to be the saviors of The House of Lotus, were of remarkable design, able to be pushed to speeds as high as 4 mph...without the use of horses of any kind. The concepts were initially hailed with great fanfare at festive gatherings of various travelling troupes of past-their-prime actors, mostly held in a land known primarily for its foul atmosphere, but beautiful beachfront properties. Additional support was provided by sumptuous eye candy pixies and sprites unable to find employment at the better venues strewn about the region. The initial reaction of the hoi polloi was one of great joy and celebration...The House of Lotus, you see, was an institution well worth saving, and one with a glorious history and honorable pedigree, but it had fallen on hard times, having to compete with the likes of The House of Ferrari and The House of Lamborghini, whose treasuries were without equal in the land of Razzle Dazzle. In time, however, as the good citizens of the land came to realize the dubious nature of the new carriages, a general malaise began to spread throughout the community.  

 

But Dany was undeterred. He knew in his heart of hearts that he could bring his House back from the brink, if only he could find a White Knight of suitably deep pockets to ride to the rescue and fund his dreams and aspirations. If only the right Merlin could be found to create and develop a propulsion system capable of powering his carriages past the 4 mph mark. 

 

And so he sought the assistance of the infamous Wolfman, an outlier from a Germanic tribe, known throughout the land as a clever builder of actually functional motors that would lend greater credence to his heretofore stationary conveyances. Yes, "credibility," that was the ticket. And so it came to pass that the Wolfman did, in fact, produce the much needed dynamo, one with great potential. But alas, for reasons unknown, this magical device vanished from the stage. As did the Wolfman himself, from The House of Lotus. Thus did Dany's ambitious aspirations likewise fade into the ether, along with his carriages. And the White Knight never appeared.

 

Some time passed, and the elf Dany, after having enlisted the help of willing barristers to assist his efforts to relieve The House of Lotus of no small portion of their already beleaguered treasury, moved on to other ventures crying for his attention in the land of Razzle Dazzle. And the Wolfman? Some say he rejoined the elf in his newest enterprise. Who knew?

 

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Amazing if Zimmermann really does go back to Dany. That would certainly speak for Dany's ability to convince renowned specialists to follow him.

 

But, on the other hand, the world is too small for another supercar manufacturer, though it likely will feed another tuner. Bahar, Mansory, Carlsson, etc. together in the tuning world. Seems like a good fit. :help:

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Gino is back on security detail for Ferrari. Swizzy is probably in jail :lol:

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Gino is back on security detail for Ferrari. Swizzy is probably in jail :lol:

 

I bet they missed Gino ;-) But Dany 's new ARSE company is just around the corner in Maranello, they can still have lunch together. ;)

 

Dany want to build a shooting break for Aston Martin... Maybe someone should tell him it has been done before? ;)

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Good hair but that last sentence earns him a kick in the balls next time I see him, what a knob.

 

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However smooth his line in the rest of that article, he shows he is harbouring spite by that last line comment.  I wonder if his payoff settlement included limiting public comments on Lotus and its products? Hard to pin that one down as it is purely a personal statement, essentially re "him" and not "the cars".  Perhaps carefully considered and crafted after "advice". 

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So did he believe in Lotus cars when he was the CEO? That last line would suggest not.

All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit.

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I think he believed in Lotus, he had a plan and thought he had the backing to see it through, the company was sold, new owners gave him the boot, I'm not surprised he's a little unhappy! However, it's a little unfortunate his new company 'Ares' is an anagram of...  :D

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Dany is awesome.

I love Dany.

I'd be in an élan now if Dany was still in charge. Probably. Maybe. Okay, well, at least I'd have a matchbox toy of an élan, and I don't even have that now.

Dany, you are an automotive God. May your ARSE make Lotus turn in horror and running for the, er, pub.

Dany and me, sitting in a tree...

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That last sentance definitely says it all.

Did sales really increase or was it coincidental that the Evora had just been launched and was in production?

As for the Paris 'splash' - I always found it funny that jag brought one car - the CX-75 - to the show and probably got more press, Danys logic in that article is a little off

Danys plan was ok, it's the excuection and the cash he squandered was the big issue

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^^ as mentioned above DB great vision no execution too much fluff and no (or very little) substance came from his tenure,

 

Back on topic, 3 days left until the dealer network meeting at Hethel and the rumour-mill on new products is spinning, Any forumers here likely to attend that very very hush hush event? 

 

 

New Elise Cup R road version is already confirmed

New Exige S auto is rumoured (videos from the Ring)

New Evora R IS rumoured (spyshots from Belgium + internal documents of DRB)

 

What else would we like to see?

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To be fair, I was looking forward to seeing the new Esprit but I still don't think I would consider buying of the current line up.

 

Obviously it doesn't mean I don't want a Lotus, just not the offerings that are available today (unless I've missed a major announcement)

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Lotus are currently building some of the best cars they ever had. I took a 991 GT3 owner out yesterday in the Evora and all he could say was 'wow' a lot! 

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Lotus are currently building some of the best cars they ever had. I took a 991 GT3 owner out yesterday in the Evora and all he could say was 'wow' a lot! 

This is the capital Lotus has to build on. No need for a revolution, just focus on the "little things" that make potential buyers in the end go for the 911. Things like interior, daily comfort and, of course, image.

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