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O Gawd 'elp us!!! I had the misfortune to watch the total twaddle that was the first programme on the "E" Type...it made the "Is Born" series by the Vet seem peerless and even Wheeler Dealers seemed good by comparison. What they will make of an Esprit I shudder to think.....

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Chap at my work said he saw it last night. Having to buy a E type to do up with a budget of £10k!? Then trying to do it up to turn a profit? If you buy a car for about £30-40k would you want to buy one from some geezas who get an old shock out of a skip saying that looks about right?

Looks like they have an Esprit lined up for a future show by the spoilers in the opening credits.

Not sure if thats and Eprit front bumper or Eclat/Elite?

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Yep - did watch it and found it to be very frustrating with the mindless banter between the guys. Seems like its a classic car show for the Big Brother generation i.e. no substance.

Will probably end up watching though and entering a couple of their competitions - although getting an Auto E-Type with a Mk 2 fiesta sunroof is not exactly my dream vehicle (however sure it can be included as part of MMC's trade in for the Exige S).

Will be interesting to see what they do with the 911 next week.

Just goes to show how much better Edd China and Mike Brewer are.

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I don't think I shall be taking my e-type to them for any work :)

They're swearing and cursing about the programme over on the e-type forum hahaha

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Bernie Fineman was last a 'TV star' with the Indian geezer (Leepu?) chopping cars and nailing truly horrible bits of 'custom' bodywork to them. Laughable, and this is no better. And what part does the co-host play? Seems to know nothing about cars and is apparently only there to goad BF?

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I was disappointed by the show and in my view there seemed to be a number of set ups ie the reversing stunt.

Looks like a Elite/Eclat or Excel to me the head lights are longer from front to back where the Esprit the length is side to side

Cliff

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Just popped out to the car park and took this shot of my excel

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I dont think the rub strip on the bumper and colour coded bumper was put on till the Excel so I'm saying Excel

Cliff

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At least on wheeler dealers - there is a little evidence of mechanical reference. It appeared that the army of mechanics magically fixed things. Oh the piston ring was "repaired" - oh the rear suspension was "replaced". The most reference was the use of a hammer. I genuinely cannot imagine why they did not get rid of the sunroof before they painted the damn car! Pathetic viewing for a generation who already believe that pixies fix cars and can't even top up oil between services! Can't wait to see how they bugger up a porsche. I wonder whether they believe they can treble their money with an Excel? I can't see a £30,000 price tag on that!

And that's another thing. In with their ridiculous valuation they charged their own "helpers" into the cost of restoration at £0. One person working 8 hours a day - for 28 days on the minimum wage is £1386.56 and there were at least 6 of them! Looks more like a "profit" of about £1500 - wow! Big fannies!

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hahaha interesting comments on the channel 5 website. Most people saying a good resto show would make good viewing but here we are all talking about the show and how bad it was etc. Dumb ass tv seems to pull in the viewing figures in the same way people seem to like seeing idiots who can't sing trying their best on those talent shows.

Has anyone logged in to a jag forum?

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Just goes to show how much better Edd China and Mike Brewer are.

George

Your kidding right...... :2guns:

These shows are desperate and cause so many problem for the true restoration industry.

They misinform and make it look repetitively easy to perform.

They get paid a fortune for doing the shows and are motoring 'celebs' on the back of it.

I end up shouting at the telly and turning it off, Not to mention the pathetic conversations with

people who watch them and decide they can do it themselves and ask me where to start...

Q... Why do the not get an established restorer to do a show. ? Ans... Because in real life is

boring, hard work and dirty... Today the truth does not make good telly...

Well in my view it could be done and condensed properly with viewer interaction on the net.

Mark Evans on 'Is Born' was the closest , But still a bit tongue in cheek...

I also think producers are missing a golden opportunity , They could do it right if they just applied themselves.

Rant over... :scared:

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Misinform? Desperate and cause problems for the restoration industry?

Wheeler dealers are one of the main reasons I bought my Esprit in the end!! The restoration industry can thank them for one customer at least. IMO I think the give a decent account of themselves and mechanically I don't recall being misinformed. As for dirty, boring, hard work, that's your opinion. Personally I love doing those jobs on my own car.

It sounds like you are compairing them to orther documentary series. I don't recall them advertising themselves as a documentary program nor for specialists either. They are clearly trying to appeal to a broader range of the public and perhaps have enticed more than a few people to tackle jobs themselves that they otherwise wouldn't. At the end of the day, it's a light entertainment program with a little information thrown in for the wanna be weekend mechanic and in my case a bit of inspiration to get another project after a 15 year sabatical. As for highly paid celebs, the two of them set the show up and the production company. Edd China has been in the custom scene for years before that. Looks to me like the two of them have put a lot of time effort and hard graft into getting to where they are. Good on them

Furthermore, I think you'll find golden opportunities are not missed going into your ninth series.

Rant also over.

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This is just another argument 'vehicle'. As said, lots of set pieces, in fact almost certainly entirely scripted, including the 'failed' bartering on the eariler E-types followed by the totally give-in 'barter' on the one they 'bought'.

On a programme like this, the car is purely incidental.

But this is also part of the endemic instant fix in our society now. The media, TV in particular, gives the common man the expectation that nothing takes time and patience. Everything is a superficial make over with the object of the restoration being made to suffer in terms of quality of work in favour of meeting a ridiculous deadline. The house programmes make me laugh the most. Complete rebuilds in a few days. I though you had to let plaster dry before working on it etc.

I think a good documentary would be to revisit all these quick flash projects 1 year on and see how many are falling apart or have had to have further remedial work.

Exception to this is grand designs which gives a true depiction of the time and heartache often involved in ambitious projects. So, in fact, this programme, given its huge success, sets the precedent that people are interested in a proper restoration. Much, however, as already pointed out, is down to the host being honest, willing to say whats is rubbish and what is not.

Harrumph!

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I think you underestimate the intelligence of the "common man" a little there. If I want to be fully informed I can easily pick up a book. Grand Designs is wonderful too but more often than not seems only to inform and inspire those with an income suitable for a loan of or a bank balance filled with half a million quid and upwards. Even the Etype restoration by Mark Evans cost over 80grand in the end. I think most people have the sense to take from Wheeler Dealers what they are offering which is essentially light entertainment and perhaps light restoration of interesting cars on a budget. We all need an escape from every daily life from time to time and most of us have a limited budget.

The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit - Richard Pryor -1971

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You are right nic, but isnt that the point? People need to know these projects are not easy, quick or cheap.

Thinking so is what results in loss of classic cars and so called 'DIY disasters' etc.

I did like the wheeler dealers episode on the Esprit but even that made swapping out the interior seem like an afternoon job.

This programme is brain drain TV and nothing more. It would probably do well on a saturday night!

Look at the audience figures for all those shows - I dont think I have underestimated anything!! ;)

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