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Final word with TAF-X vs Syntrans?

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JAE is saying that Lotus Cars USA is now shipping Syntrans instead of TAF-X as the replacement gearbox fluid for Renaults.

Did Lotus finally come out and endorse Syntrans as the full replacement?

Syntrans may be easier to get, but cheaper it is not: $35/liter.

Thanks!

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http://www.amazon.de...&search-type=ss

9.65 €/ 0.5L ..for the syntrans, even with exchange-rate and transport &taxes should be less than 35$/L ??

Or this:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Castrol-TAF-X-Syntrans-Transaxle-75W-90-5x0-5-Lite-/280672099486

12.60€/L ..and send 'all around the world'

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http://www.amazon.de...&search-type=ss

9.65 €/ 0.5L ..for the syntrans, even with exchange-rate and transport &taxes should be less than 35$/L ??

Yea, I know, JAE is not the cheapest. But the question is whether I should go Syntrans, or make the special effort to order TAF-X.

TAF-X is only going to get harder to buy, so I want to know if Lotus has officially endorsed Syntrans from their testing like Bibs said they were going to do in another thread somewhere.

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would see it as Castrols own replacement, as you can't say for sure that anyone from Lotus is officially interested in improving anything old anymore ..or what would you think -based on realistic terms nowadays

(Bibs comment was for example prior to the latest 'brake down' in Hethel, so things have changed .. and there are more things, like tires and other points who are not available for some specific models -so I guess it is all up on our own !)

If JAE is notch cheap, why not import your own oil for the work ..??

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It's actually very expensive to import the oil from what the Castrol people told me from here:

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_uk/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/c/Castrol_Classic_Retail_PL_November_2011.pdf

So while I can save a little bit of money, it's not worth it in this case if I am going to use Syntrans. If I want TAF-X, I will have to order it from overseas and just pay the super high shipping costs.

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so why order it from there ?

..there are many more sources out there in the world, as you see in the other links.

Even old (NOS) cans of TAF-X are there in ebay, mainly in Europe

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Not having a lot of luck finding any for sale that will ship to the US. This is the common result:

http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/180435169703

Any chance you want to make some money shipping TAF-X?

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Bibs is normally our forum 'postman' :D

..in your link it is 'ship to UK' ..so it is Bibs turn, or from someone over there in UK.

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the reversed formulation is available 'worldwide'

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item46023641f1

http://www.ebay.co.u...41595c5c9e#shId

http://www.ebay.co.u...3f09b1b5ee#shId

..so maybe you just try to get the newer version, and share the overseas transport cost with some of your guys ?

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I have 3.5 litres of TAF-X hidden away in my garage and I'm only 160 miles away, but you will never take me alive, Philip. :harhar::lol:

You are most assuredly not alone in wondering what the dickens has happened to the Lotus Syntrans testing program, but like Gunter has implied, the home office has bigger fish to fry at the moment. My gut feeling is the Renault unit would do just fine with Syntrans, but it would be a real confidence builder to hear that same judgement directly from Hethel.

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It's not you I want, it's your TAF-X.

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Philip, just :secret: John that Oil and its 'mystified' special ingrediences to have the characteristics can 'age' over time ..even in a can/bottle somewhere in a shed.. . ;)

Based on his questions all around craftsmanship and car-service works/rebuilds -the time that John actually does something handy on his gearbox, this is far away I would say, so with other words he will not make a use out of it ..don't you think ! .. :hrhr:

Or go an buy some 'cheapish' Syntrans over here in Europe, as there are more cars out there who have used Castrol TAF-X in the old formulation, and this is not an Renault-UN1 specific oil.. ! It was used optional for example in some types of the VW (VAG ) fleet over years ..and that's a real 'mass-production' manufacturer in comparision ..so you can guess that there are more customers out there with demants in a replacement, and if it is good for them .. :whistle:

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Based on his questions all around craftsmanship and car-service works/rebuilds -the time that John actually does something handy on his gearbox, this is far away I would say, so with other words he will not make a use out of it ..don't you think ! .. :hrhr:

That's very hurtful, Gunter. I want you to know that have already scheduled my transaxle service with the Lotus dealership for 8am, on May 5th of 2015, based on current usage. By that time my existing supply will have aged like a fine wine. :lol:

And be advised, Philip, my perimeter defenses are formidable. :rambo:

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Castrol Syntrans is now theLotus approved replacement for Castrol TAF-X for the Renault UN1 Transaxle. They are now supplying the Dealer Network with this product.

The product is known as Castrol Syntrans Transaxle 75W-90 (Manual Transmission Fluid – Transaxle) See attached Castrol Data Sheet.

It should be noted that this product is different to Castrol Syntrax which is available in some territories.

Castrol TAF-X is still available from some outlets.

ASO have had this info for a while but haven't released a dealer communication yet, I'm guessing because they sell very little to no TAF-X so assume it's not a concern.

Syntrans.pdf

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As I've previously stated I have been using Castrol Syntrax 75/90 for the 5-6 years I've owned the car.

​My only reservation was clutch-less shifting at low temperatures.

Putting the gearbox back in after my recent clutch change, I decided to change the 5 year old Syntrax 75/90.

Discontinued !!! replaced by Syntrax  Universal Plus 75/90, well I have a good report, it actually says on the bottle "Smooth shift at low temperature" and I can report, yes it's better, still bloody expensive but it's OK. And I've genuinely found improved gear change.

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