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so question . I have and im making for my car a carbon fibre heater panel.

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it will illuminate as the old one but in carbon fibre . real composite not some cheap film sticker .

can i sell them on here and not get in trouble from the powers that be and also a list of who wants one > :)

price is 100 quid it will be a remove and screw in part no modding or cutting ill test fit everyone i make so fitment will be easy .

im making other bits for mine but this is one thing i guess you guys may like .

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How about an engine cover?

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This is something I've been mulling over for a while, particularly the engine cover. Then I found this on LEW - 

 

http://www.lotusespritworld.com/EGuides/EModifications/V8_Carbon_Makeover.html

 

The results, especially at the prices quoted, are stunning. I assume its not the 'cheap film sticker'  Alex mentions but some other process? I don't know anything about this stuff and would obviously stand corrected....

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here are some guys over here in Germany/Austria , who I know in person ..those have a carbon-fibre engine cover ..and one has done front-light covers in carbon-fibre (overlay, as I guess) in DIY

 

reference for contact:

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/user/5411-turbomaster/

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/user/4484-gospeedv8/

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/user/6551-bo-s4s/ (all three for the engine-covers and interiour parts)

 

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/user/5810-streetz/ (light covers)

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Mark,

The process is this

 

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The guys I deal with are flat out ar the moment making all the f1 stuff so it can be looked at after march time but id need a list of people as 1 isnt cost effective. Im making these out of real carbon not wrap or fake vinyl Hedgerley that esprit looks ridiculous im sorry fake carbon is terrible looks cheap he shouldnt have bothered ! Ill make mine and show you what its suppose to look like Its not called black porn for nuffin lol

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Now I get it. But what is in the spray gun?

 

I'll take your word for it Alex - I look forward to seeing the results.

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The spray is the activator for the film, you can get home kits for it.

 

Personally I think the bits on that esprit look fine.

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Alex -will be interesting stuff, especially how you manage to refabricate all the small noses and gaps there for the door handle covers, to snap it onto the odd flexing plastic from GM.

 

That's why the guy in the pictures has done it with the 'water film' technique instead of real carbon (it is simillar to the 'water solvent' decals on toy-cars & modelcrafting..by the way)

 

the guys I mentioned have carbon fibre in the car, not a masking vinyl -the engine-cover in real carbon uses a different tailgate-seal design, as it was not possible to refabricate it with the leading edge all around to fit the originall rubber seal on it. The parts from Holger (streetz in the forum) are factory parts, covered with real carbon overlay in DIY

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This is getting way off topic im not making engine covers and dont intend too no offence but im making a heater panel costing 100 pounds and no names yet so I dont see a cover costing 10 times that being a quick seller .back to heater panels plz

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and heater under way

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as you can see im doing away with the radio hole .

could be a place for gauges or just left clean carbon

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carbon is terrible looks cheap 

 

 

Yea Im with you on that one. I think Carbon fibre looks crappy and cheapo looking. I think on a GT car with leather seats its just wrong. On a stripped out race car I think its ok or on an Exige etc.

 

The weight savings on parts are going to be so small you would be better taking a pound coin out of you pocket and leaving it at home! lol

 

 

Buddsy

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Hi Alex,

 

If you need a hand with any CAD drawings for possible production of these panels, pre 98 dash, post 98 dash and heater panels then give me a bell, you have my details now. For production I think you need to look at possibly seeing if a laser cutting company can cuyt these out without damaging the carbon. I already have the CAD drawing for post 98 dashand some other stuff but would need a tracing of the pre 98 dash and heater panel.

On a side note about your pre98 dash, the wood dash holes are curved but when you cut out in carbon, you will need to see how the dials look against the rough/ square cut.

 

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

David Walters 



PS, when making a tracing, measure the holes on your tracing against the original to see if there is any difference. Normally people make the mistake of keeping pencil straight and this makes the tracing slightly smaller due to thickness of pencil. Getting it right first time will save cutting it twice if dials won't fit.

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I'm interested in how are you are going to do the heater panel markings? i.e the the illuminated sections. also how are you going to do the side pods for the dash?  Would you not be better skinning the panels with prepreg carbon fibre?

 

I have some textured carbon Film, that to be honest looks like the real stuff, seems a lot of work for what in affect is a visual part. As Dave says you will need some curves on the holes or it will look like a slab in a kit car.

 

Hope this doesn't come across, wrong. I'm genuinely interested in how you are doing this. I tried some real carbon fibre cloth to do my dash it was a nightmare. I ended up just coating my dash to match the leather in the car.

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Screenshot_2013-01-10-19-29-12_zpsd1b1b4

This is basicaly a cad format of the heater colour arrangement and the holes drilled into the carbon to allow the light to shine through simple but effective.

As for the dash binnacle im only doing the back plate in carbon fibre not the curved edges they are black in mine anyway .

The panels can be just heaters or like mine blanks to theres two on offer

Thanks dave helpfull imput ;)

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just a stupid question ,how close is that dash panel to a g car 86 ?my panel is cracked an the warning lights are not particularly secure   

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so with the heater panel.. it will be 'on top' of the original, as the metal-base & the colored factory cover is still in place ? 

-how much does this add to the overal dimensions, will all the knobs still fit on the switch axis there ??

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I dont know steve post a picture No gunter its not over the original it replaces it. Unscrew the old one and fit this new one . The thickness of the carbon it 2mm thick .thinner than the original two plastic panels so saves weight too. And the dials will work fine

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thinner than the original two plastic panels so saves weight too. 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 

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Just a suggestion, why not put the oddments bin and lighter above your blanking plate?

That way it will actually be easily accessible no matter what gear you are in and the upper area wont look so bland.

Are you going to label up the switches as well? If so, how do you intend to do that?

 

Ged

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The bin move idea sounds good, for the labels are you going to silk screen them on?

 

The way I wouild do it for the heater panel is a clear perspex, on the back you could put the colours with a print mounted with optical clear mount film, (i'll send you a bit if you want) then i'd use a vinyl cutter to cut a mask for the front with the cut outs, and then silk screen the labels on.

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