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Can we resurrect this thread... I've read some worrying things about clutches dying and costing thousands to replace -engine out etc etc Is this actually an issue? Anyone on a second clutch?? [Just for you Softlips: standard, naturally aspirated 2011 Evora. By Lotus. Solar yellow, like yours ;) ]

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I can't talk from personal experience as I don't have an Evora, but I have not seen heaps of posts on here about owners going through their clutches prematurely.

 

Where have you seen all these 'worrying' posts?

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The worrying posts are more about the clutch being a huge job to change.  I don't think anyone has had to pay for one yet, and not sure why it should be an issue really.  My old Exige never needed a clutch, don't see why the Evora should?  

 

Its not a Ferrari !

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I have an ex-management n/a car with 24k miles. As the car was bought and sold as having a c/r box but didn't, Lotus eventually took it away and fitted a brand new c/r gear box. When they brought it back both Andy French and Neil Turner informed me that they had put a new clutch in, purely because of the agro I had had and that the cost of a new clutch while everything was apart was minimal. Thus minimizing any future issues and also trying to keep a customer happy (maybe it helped that i'm on my 7th lotus, 4 of which were new!). I did have a chat with Andy and he mentioned that so far they have not managed to come up with a method of changing the clutch other than taking the engine out. I cant remember the exact figure but, he mentioned an estimate of either £2.5k or £3.5 cant remember which but definately one of them. So needless to say I was very happy that they changed it!

 

Gavin

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I dove now 65000 KM and the clutch is still 1A. So... if you treat it the way it should be treated, all is well.

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If you hunt about you will find some post or posts about 18~24 months ago I think in this Evora section where for a while they had people getting new cluthces under warranty due to uneven wear.  It was due to an assembly issue over not torquing up parts in correct order from memory. There was quite a few done.  Lots of photos of cars in bits. Scary stuff and you can see why expensive.  For some reason I have 35 hours labour alone were allowed to dealers in my head but that may be wrong.

 

The various symptoms noted by the owners were many to have the initial inspection done.

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Having been one of those who had their clutch replaced I can confirm that this had nothing to do with clutch wear or aging. The need to replace the clutch was due only to an assembly error, as Allan stated.

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This sorta thing is always interesting.

If this is an assembly issue, shouldnt there of been a recall notice?

I dont do many miles in my Evora and it will soon be 3 years old, if the clutch had an issue after that I would be mighty miffed at paying such a large amount of wonga for something that might have shown more issues had I been a higher mileage user in the first 3 years.

 

Guess I will cross that bridge if / when it happens, still plan to keep the car a couple more years.

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These issues were not mileage related and only affected a few unfortunate owners. If your car is nearly 3 years old and haven't had problems there is no reason to worry about the next couple of years either.

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I have 11K+ miles on my MY12 S, and just had the 10K service a few months ago. I was at a car show the other week parked behind a fairly stunning Volcano Orange MP4-12C, but when we both went to leave I couldn't get the car in reverse--no how, no way. After about 2 minutes at idle it went in with a bit of a shove. I should probably note I was on an incline (nose up_ and had parked the car in 1st, which I almost never do and only use the hand brake. Then a week later, even with just the handbrake, on level ground I couldn't get it in 1st. Haven't had a problem since.

 

Theories?    

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If you struggle, select another gear and move the car an inch in it then try to select the gear again, job's a peach. In my experience, sometimes things just like being aligned differently and of course you know the difference selecting first before reverse in Renault boxed Esprit makes too.

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From new, getting into first from neutral - e.g after stopping at lights - was never 100% certain without re-engaging the clutch (or second) as a preliminary. Skipping the history, after a reassembly of linkages and their setting up by B&C at 12K miles (2K miles ago), now when starting from cold the gears always go in reliably, but linkage movements are slightly stiff and notchy. Quite understandable and acceptable. After warming up, movements become free and smooth for all gears and I can't recall a single difficulty getting into first. When warm, the change process is better than it has ever been. (No cable change.)

Although the notchiness when cold is now distinctly more noticeable, it is something anyone with a little mechanical sympathy would expect and accept. I suspect that setting up the linkage for the properly hot, fully expanded state is the key. Well done B&C.

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More likely the fluid viscosity in the box causing extra resistance. 

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Thanks for the info gents. Will look into linkage and fluids...Oooooo, that sounds rather randy.

Anyway, new info--it happened again this morning. Couldn't get in 1st, sort of. First thing I noticed was the clutch pedal was sunk down halfway. Then when I attempted to put it in 1st the car would move, but there was no feeling that the gear had actually engaged. So I waited about a minute and then everything was fine.

Any more thoughts based on that, i.e., finding the clutch pedal half depressed, which also happened the other two times, but I forgot to mention. Thanks.

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If the pedal was halfway down you are likely experiencing the dreaded boiling fluid issue. See here: http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/51271-clutch-pedal-its-happened-again/

 

Would seem to fit. Otherwise it may be an alignment issue with the shift cables as discussed here:

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/52231-gearchange-issues-dissected/

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Damn, Thomas! I just read both those threads and you deserve a medal for all the research and detailed posts. I'll move my comments over to the "Clutch pedal - its happened again" thread, which seems more like what I'm experiencing. Thanks for the reference!

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No posts on this since April 2013, has anyone had a clutch done in the past year?  Are we really talking thousands?  My clutch is deffo on the way out, so gonna have to get it replaced very soon. 

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Out of intrest what's your mileage Keir? What is a majority of your driving?

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Just gone over 30k.  My usual drives would be long drives at weekends, although the Mrs has been using it recently for school runs, shopping etc whilst I've been working away.  

 

I probably didn't do it any favours in the summer when I took part in the Bournemouth wheels festival which included doing some demo runs from a standstill.  After the first one there was a hell of a smell so I guess I did some damage then as it was a clutch smell rather than a burning rubber smell and I know I didn't spin the wheels 

 

Went for a drive yesterday and as I put my foot down to overtake someone on an A road, I could hear it slipping, then again about 10 minutes later as I accelerated up a hill I could hear the engine speeding up but it wasn't related to the accelerator :(     

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You are the first I have heard with a worn clutch, rather than the assembly issue. Mine has 36k on it and seems absolutely fine.

Hoffmann in Henley will do a fixed price of £3k, assuming they are too far I'd probably try and negotiate a fixed price in this region with local specialist. Back on track were suggesting this sort of figure as top end, but hadn't done one (this was a year ago).

I believe the main dealers were c£5k.

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I'm sure I remember reading that some indy's have the job down to 10 hours now, rather than the 30 odd that Lotus dealers were quoting.

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