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Kier, I'd be interested in hearing more about the specifics after the autopsy as well.  I have well over 53,000 miles, several track days, and drive in some the worst traffic conditions probably in the world (Sunny Los Angeles) and my clutch has been flawless to date.

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That figure is ridiculous. There were early production issues where the clutches had to be replaced on a number of cars. Other than that clutch life has been way above 50k at least.   Sometimes mech

You are the first I have heard with a worn clutch, rather than the assembly issue. Mine has 36k on it and seems absolutely fine.

Hoffmann in Henley will do a fixed price of £3k, assuming they are too far I'd probably try and negotiate a fixed price in this region with local specialist. Back on track were suggesting this sort of figure as top end, but hadn't done one (this was a year ago).

I believe the main dealers were c£5k.

Do the symptoms I described above sound like something that could happen as a result of an assembly issue?  I guess I'm just going to have to bite the bullet & book it in to get it looked at, it's not going to get better on its own :( 

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FYI Snows now have an approved service centre in Plymouth if it's of any use to you :)

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Thanks Bibs, I used to take it to Westover in Poole but not been happy with their service so was thinking of going to B&C as at least they have a great reputation.  Will look at snows, I had considered their place in Southampton, but it's not been there for long has it?  So I wasn't sure what experience they've got?

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B&C have a great reputation, as do Williams in Bristol too. 

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Would recommend B&C, they are run and owned by Lotus enthusiasts plus are the oldest Lotus dealer, over 44 years! :)

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Do the symptoms I described above sound like something that could happen as a result of an assembly issue?  I guess I'm just going to have to bite the bullet & book it in to get it looked at, it's not going to get better on its own :(

No, but looks like you think I was insinuating something, I wasn't.

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No, but looks like you think I was insinuating something, I wasn't.

Hi Colin, I'm not mechanically minded and I have no idea about clutch issues or about assembly issues, I was hopeful that the assembly issue may have been cheaper than a clutch issue and I was just asking if the symptoms I'd mentioned (ie the slipping when accelerating) were found where there was a clutch assembly issue.

 

I was just asking a question based on what you'd said, i wasn't implying you were insinuating anything!

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Looks like I did what I thought you'd done, so my apologies.

What you have described sounds like a friction plate issue, the most likely cause of this would be contamination of the surface (unlikely), adjustment or wear. If you have done a number of "launches" and smelled the burning clutch then this will not have helped. So I would suspect a wear issue from the details provided.

The assembly problem usually manifested itself in the release bearing causing issues. I've not experienced it myself (fortunately) but I understand noise would be the first sign and I would suspect difficult operation and a rough engagement of the clutch would follow.

I don't know what (if any) adjustments can be made to the Evora clutch, but assuming there are none then either way it will likely need the engine out so there won't be a lot in it price wise as all would be replaced either way. If it's slipping it will only get worse. I'd get it in to be looked at ASAP and avoid using in the meantime, just in case there is an adjustment that can be made.

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Just had a look in the Evora Labour Time Schedule from Lotus (Part Number B132T0328D/09/01). Renew clutch assembly (with gearbox removed) is stated at 0.5 hour BUT removal and refit of the transmission assembly is stated at 21 hours(!). Depending on the hourly rate at the work shop and adding a new clutch on top I can easily see this coming out at £3k (for sure it would do here in Sweden).

 

Would be great to keep this thread updated with actual numbers once someone have done the job.

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Car has now gone into the garage, so I'll have some more info on the clutch issue in the coming week or so.  Unfortunately someone decided to redecorate my front bumper with their tow hitch yesterday as well, so yet more expense. :(

 

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Ouch! Guessing they didnt leave their number? CCTV?

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Ouch! Guessing they didnt leave their number? CCTV?

Good guess Bibs.  No CCTV either, I'm not even 100% sure when it happened as I've not been using the car much due to the clutch issue.  Unfortunately due to the size of the excess on my insurance I'm probably gonna have to just take the hit on this and pay for it myself. 

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I have fitted a Dash Cam with impact detector, after being hit the office car park. (Person who hit me owned up fortunately).

I'm just trying to figure out how to fit one to the back windscreen as well.

Seems the only way to protect against this type of behaviour.

Tris...

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Car has now gone into the garage, so I'll have some more info on the clutch issue in the coming week or so. Unfortunately someone decided to redecorate my front bumper with their tow hitch yesterday as well, so yet more expense. :(

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Keir,

Oh man that's awful!! I know a VERY good accident repair place in Chessington you can trust. If you need a contact PM me. That might be fixable. Might be more economic? They will make it 100% straight and perfect. The garage use to sort TVR's and Nobles out and the owner is proper old school when it comes to quality finish;)

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Just had a look in the Evora Labour Time Schedule from Lotus (Part Number B132T0328D/09/01). Renew clutch assembly (with gearbox removed) is stated at 0.5 hour BUT removal and refit of the transmission assembly is stated at 21 hours(!). Depending on the hourly rate at the work shop and adding a new clutch on top I can easily see this coming out at £3k (for sure it would do here in Sweden).

 

Would be great to keep this thread updated with actual numbers once someone have done the job.

 

Murrays quote £2,750 to change it. 

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Keir,

Oh man that's awful!! I know a VERY good accident repair place in Chessington you can trust. If you need a contact PM me. That might be fixable. Might be more economic? They will make it 100% straight and perfect. The garage use to sort TVR's and Nobles out and the owner is proper old school when it comes to quality finish;)

Thanks, appreciated, but it's already gone into Lotus garage for the clutch and a couple of other things, so they're doing the bumper whilst they have it,

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Not been able to update this as Lotus don't have any replacement clutches :( They're on back order.  Apparently people with NA's have been upgrading to the S clutches so they've ran out.  6 weeks in the garage so far, with no indications as to when they'll get them back in stock? :( 

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Finally had word back about the clutch. It's a mess apparently, so much so that it's damaged the flywheel which also needs replacing now.  Lotus are saying the clutches on the S model should be replaced between around 20k to 25k (which is news to me) so they're saying it should have already been replaced.

 

The other interesting point is that I was asked how long I'd been driving it around once it started slipping, as it'd clearly overheated a lot inside.  This is a surprise as it's something that as soon as I noticed I drove the car as little as possible until I got it booked in and even when I did drive it, it didn't appear to be slipping unless I accelerated hard, so this kind of implies to me that it was slipping without me even noticing (which I find a bit odd!).

 

At least it's finally getting done, but unfortunately I think this is gonna hurt me financially :( :( 

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Wtf!? They expect the clutch to be a 20-25k mile consumable?!

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