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Yet another Eclat/Elite lost because the wheels and engine are in fashion for the custom boys?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lotus-Eclat-1976-/151032817503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item232a41e75f

This one still has a current MOT.

 

How many Elan plus 2's have been wrecked to make yet another Cortina/Escort Lotus, and now it's starting to happen to the Elite and Eclat.

 

 

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Oh dear. What a shame. It's hard to believe someone would buy a good MOT'd car to remove the engine and box, like you say for an old escort or cortina. Soon there won't be many left....

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"Could fit a V8"...or you could just fit a V8 to whatever kit car cack this is being raped for?

 

By removing the only valuable things, the engine and wheels, it's probably condemned to the crusher. So once it's dumped on the ground who realistically is going to drag it away? It would have to be free to be worthwhile.

 

Like you said, a shame for an MOT'd car when there are plenty of moss covered garden ornaments that could have died instead.

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I think I will have to go out and buy another Elite/ Éclat just to try and save the model from extinction. Hide it away from the Lotus pirates ;-)

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It used to be that people would dump the engine and fit a V8.  Now they are dumping the car for the engine.  Yet, a second hand engine isn't that expensive.  Doesn't make sense.

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I think I will have to go out and buy another Elite/ Éclat just to try and save the model from extinction. Hide it away from the Lotus pirates ;-)

 

Thats why I went for the 521.  I don't really need it now and logistically it would have been better to wait, but in a few years they might be gone :no .

 

One was available at a reasonable price with a Galv chassis, that was scruffy enough that I wouldn't worry about HSCC preparation destroying a minter, so I took it....

 

I really fear for the survival of series 1 cars.

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I am interested in a nice seris 1 Eclat at the moment. Will keep you posted on how it goes........

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Now they are dumping the car for the engine.  Yet, a second hand engine isn't that expensive.  Doesn't make sense.

 

Yes, isn't that what Jensen-Healeys are for?  :devil:

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the weird thing is Tony, that even crud like J-H's are selling in the UK for much more than Eclat and Elites....

 

I can't explain it either. Would someone really view a J-H as being more desirable than a Lotus?

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C346036

 

It's a fat MGB with a de-tuned lotus engine !!

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Yes it's a wierd one - you think someone would pick something more obvious/commonplace to use as a donor engine. Something that spares are cheap and easy to source. Plus the seller could get more money selling the car as a complete runner with MOT, then buy a Rover V8 / duratec / toyota etc engine for a lot less.

 

Btw there is a blue S1 on ebay at the moment that doesn't look too bad... Didn't go onto the ebay section here for some reason.

 

But I can't really criticise anyone on this point as i removed and sold most of my eclat original parts(!)

 

Mat.

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I was amazed to see a white VW panel van in Winchester with Lotus Eclat wheels fitted! 

It made me feel a bit sick to think that such a fantastic car should be destroyed to tart up an old VW van, the sad thing is that the owner of the van will never know the amazing experience of driving the car he took the wheels from.

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i have many wheels for sale, and the young boy's really like the wheels for there vauxhauls and VW's because its oldschool wheels

and thats right now very hot item, so thats where the wheels go...

 

they only must make them 100 x 4 .... so still some work to do, but you have rare wheels!!

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Please excuse my ignorance but who are the 'custom boys' robbing the engines?  I swear they were a pony powered 2.2? 

 

Surely not the 'dubbers' when they have 20V turbo's available?

 

Surely not the Vauxhall nuts (I was one) with the C/Z20LET available?

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The problem is that the 'custom boys' like the wheels, the 'rally boys' like the engines and the 'ebay boys' like to flog the 45mm Dellortos £££..... then just junk the rest.

By the way I am not sexist it's just a figure of speech! and I'm not being derogatory to customiser's or modifiers....terms and conditions apply..... :harhar:

 I am not against breaking cars that are uneconomical to restore or selling spare parts, but what I do feel sad about is breaking a car with an MOT that could be returned to the road when there are so few left, when did you last see an Éclat or Elite on the road?

How many 'dubbers, or 'Vauxhall nuts' have actually ever driven a Lotus and know what they are missing, not very many I would suspect but most of the population have driven a VW or Vauxhall at some time and know what bland modes of transport they are, which is why people modify them. You don't need to modify a Lotus much to get a good driving experience.

 

As for the engines, there is a misconception that it is a simple job to drop a 900 series engine into a Vauxhall Chevette or Talbot Alpine (not a Golf or Astra) and make an instant rally replica worth lots of money. Anybody that can make a decent job of it I take my hat off to.

I suppose it's market forces at work but I am allowed an opinion surely?

Pheww..... I feel better now!!!!

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