rogerch Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Long story short I think I'm up for a new clutch. The adjuster is frozen/rusted solid, I'm uneasy about swinging on it harder, the fork goes next and I'm buggered. Question, if I could move it, should I ? It seems preset, play with it at your own risk and maybe damage the flywheel, if it gets down to the rivets. Advice, (Mr Clark) If I do get a new clutch over I'll replace the adjuster too. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.oogieboogie Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Get a clutch. And the crappy spring Quote It's Oogies turn to boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Grey Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 The clutch is designed to start slipping before it gets to the rivets. If you adjust it, then it is possible to wear past the rivets... Change the clutch when it starts slipping. I also change the pressure plate and throw-out bearing. Quote Travis Vulcan Grey 89SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted May 9, 2013 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 No point adjusting that if it's to spec. As Travis says, you'll just feel pain later. And yes, change the lot. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Now we really want Dave Freeman to show us his clutch push rod he had fitted. Admittedly it worked but it was different to what is normally present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Naturally I'd do the lot, hate doing things twice. (postage to OZ is a bit hefty) One thing I would like to know, the size of the punches to to knock the drive-shaft pins out ? Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 After the problems Justin had with the pins, i would suggest you speak with Sparky about his method of removing the drive shafts at the spider yokes at the gearbox end instead. I'm not sure how that works, but hopefully we are about to get a description here I guess if you're about to do the clutch, I wonlt be far behind you as I seem to trail you by 3 months on everything. Take lots of pics. Quote Too many Toys are never enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted May 10, 2013 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Undo the gaiter, mark spider and yoke position, pull it out (suspension arm bolts removed of course). Takes all of 90 seconds compared to the aggro of knocking the pins out. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 You're up early, I wanna take the pins out, But another quick one, can I take the box out from underneath, is it possible, practical, ?? spinal issues means underneath would be much easier for me. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted May 10, 2013 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 You're mad. The box will come out (just) down on the right. spinally though, I think it'll hurt either way!Up early?? I overslept today! Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) I've measured the adjuster as per manual, 12.5mm (Renault box). But mine isn't 12.5mm From tip to the arm is 13.04mm, the lock nut is already off so subtract 7.7 for that and end up with 5.34 a substantial difference. So suspicion is, someone already adjusted it, but I've had it 5 years ! So I guess I need to stop procrastinating and order a new clutch kit, a new adjuster too ! Edited May 12, 2013 by Roger the Dodger Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.oogieboogie Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 And a spring Quote It's Oogies turn to boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red vtec Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 and a mechanic Quote Amateurs built the Ark Professionals built the Titanic "I haven't ridden in cars pulled by cows before" "Bullocks, Mr.Belcher" "No, I haven't, honestly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 And a spring What's this spring Peter ? Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.oogieboogie Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) The clutch fork spring. Only a few quid. If you doing the clutch change it. Its held on with x1 rivet its a sprung piece of steel not a coil spring. If this goes its box off again so do it while you are there here's a couple of pics from when i did my clutch. Edited May 12, 2013 by mr.oogieboogie Quote It's Oogies turn to boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Had a nice chat with Steve at SJ last night, lunch time UK. New clutch kit, adjuster, lock nut, and new roller pins all on it's way. Peter I'll pay special attention to that spring when I get it all apart. I've also just ordered a 3/8 air ratchet wrench, wanted one for a while, make life a bit easier on the old sole. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Well the clutch kit has just left Heathrow, thanks Steve. According to the shipping details I live in "Outlying Areas-NSW" My new air ratchet should arrive tomorrow, and I've just bought locally a set of pin punches, so I reckon I'm ready to go. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Grey Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Roger, Since you have a bad back, you could use a hoist... Quote Travis Vulcan Grey 89SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I think you're right Travis, I had a look today, and I think it will be much easier to get out top side rather than underside. As I have access to a hoist, I think that's the way I will go. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Well wouldn't yer know it ! I got the hoist out today (Stored dismantled under the bench in the corner) Put my back out doing it ! So to save my back I get the hoist out and stuff my back doing it. May as well just settled for picking up the gearbox in the first place ! I'm thinking I'll give it a good clean while it's out, maybe even a nice coat of silver enamel, look nice stay clean. Whether the clutch is here or not (Stuck in Sydney Customs for 48 hrs) I'm starting Monday afternoon. Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.oogieboogie Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Did i mention the spring Quote It's Oogies turn to boogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerch Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 You certainly did Peter, I'll be paying close attention to it when I get it out. The clutch is here, was on my doorstep when I returned from seeing the specialist today. I should have started already but after a morning of pushing prodding, and "Is that painful ?" as I climb down off the ceiling ! I had a rest instead, Quote Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it. (Tom Leahrer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold FFM Sparky Posted May 20, 2013 Gold FFM Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Don't forget the spring. Quote British Fart to Florida, Nude to New York, Dunce to Denmark, Numpty to Newfoundland. And Shitfaced Silly Sod to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydclements Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I feel for you Roger. My spine goes into spasm far too often, although it could be much worse such as skeletal rather than muscular. A problem I had for several years that was finally sorted by a small operation, abscess on the coccyx, has seemingly returned. Looks like I'll be having a trip back to the hospital, either that or getting to know a rather large needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red vtec Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I have a spinal graft on my lower back, did it when I was 13. they had to fuse the vertabre with bone from my hip. Fortunetly been good ever since. Quote Amateurs built the Ark Professionals built the Titanic "I haven't ridden in cars pulled by cows before" "Bullocks, Mr.Belcher" "No, I haven't, honestly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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