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Do I want a V8?


tonytransam

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I have always loved the Guigaro cars and am fortunate to own an S1, S2 and Turbo. The Stevens cars I can appreciate but don't feel the urge to own one, but the V8 being the last and of course with a V8 I can't help feel that I should have one. Anyone here driven both what are your experiences? Anyone changed from a Guigaro to a V8? Maybe regretted it? Are they easy to work on?

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Just don't do what the previous owner of my S1 did and butcher your S1 to fit a V8!! Took me a serious amount of bodywork to revert it back to how it left the factory.

 

Paul.

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I have been down that route I once bought an S2 with a Rover V8. surprisingly wasn't a bad car, quiet as a mouse on the motorway. It needed everything cosmetic though so I sold it.

No I am a stickler for originality so all the cars are safe. Judging by lack of response I think your either in the Guigaro camp or V8 camp no one wants to seem out of line.

I'm not that keen on the modern stuff, in that main dealers have you buy the short and curlies, where you need specialist tooling to do menial tasks, but certain publications seem to speak highly of the V8 sticking to Lotus traditions. 

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Anthony, I have always felt that the ultimate Esprit collection would be an S1, a G Turbo and a V8. As these are the models the represent the milestones of the Esprit's evolution. If I was to whittle it down to just two then it would be the S1 and the V8. The first and last creations of anything are always the most collectable. As you already have a rather fine stable of automotive engineering, surely it would only be a natural progression for a V8 to be included.

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They do look good side by side. Taken last year at my town's yearly car show. It's coming around again so I hope we can get them together again.

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I've driven a few V8s . . . and they are fantastic cars! . . . but they don't feel like Esprits to me any more.  I think the V8s are awesome, but for me they are getting too far away from everything that made the Esprit what an Esprit is -- a lightweight, 4-cylinder supercar.   If it's the performance I'm after, I'd go for the S4s.   If the V8 is the attraction to you, then absolutely get one, as they very much live up to their expectations!  :)

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Tony K. :)

 

Esprit S1s #355H & 454H

Esprit S2.2  #324J

1991 Esprit SE

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I have driven a V8 and it felt massive compared to the S2. Naturally the perfomance is leagues apart but the S2 feels so much more chuckable and go kart like that in the real world I think you can have a bit more fun with the older car. If speed limits and traffic weren't an issue I'd love a V8 or S4s in the garage but would never get rid of the S2. If you have the cash and the space to get a V8 as well then I say go for it and then plan a nice trans European jaunt!

 

Pete

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I've driven a few V8s . . . and they are fantastic cars! . . . but they don't feel like Esprits to me any more.  I think the V8s are awesome, but for me they are getting too far away from everything that made the Esprit what an Esprit is -- a lightweight, 4-cylinder supercar.   If it's the performance I'm after, I'd go for the S4s.   If the V8 is the attraction to you, then absolutely get one, as they very much live up to their expectations!  :)

I think this is what I was thinking. Lets face it every one can make a fast car today, but its what you feel when you see it and drive it, I will try one but I have a feeling "I will be shaken but not stirred!" Pardon the Pun. :hrhr:

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Thanks Trevor, I'm in Putney. I have seen a 2000, 16000 mile car in yellow not far from me.

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I always think my V8 feels like a supercar when I drive it which I don't get from the G cars. If I find myself around Putney for a drive I'll look you up.

Trevor.

I'll get around to it at some point.

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I think they are pretty cool as the Esprit was always designed to have a V8 and they are very fast. They are however more expensive to work on due to twin turbo etc. Generally speaking by now any niggles with cylinder liners (I think this was a potential issue which some V8s suffered from) should be sorted out. I think the Sport 350 has the best wheels but I still ultimately prefer the g cars for their design. 

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I had a S4,modified to near S4s spec, bodged with bits from here and there, painted in the brightest colour possible ( most of you know the car!) and I only ever had minor problems that I could sort myself, that car could take any abuse I could throw at it on motorways or country roads and it just begged for more............but I longed for a V8, so I sold the S4 and my beloved Elan +2 (big mistake) to buy the ultimate V8, a low miles full history etc,etc Sport 350.

15 months on and I miss the S4 , the V8 is FAST, looks great, BUT I feel like I am driving a 1980s ferrari, it feels  fragile and ready to break if I push it hard, I have not had any major issues but even minor work seems to need specialist attention, ie 6 hours to change a oil pressure switch (dismantle  oil filter housings and turbo pipes,engine mounts etc,etc.)

Its now a very rare car, so needs to be maintained and kept as the factory intended .

Anyone want to do a deal on a S4s or even better a Sport 300 ??

I think a 4 pot that needs driving hard to perform suits my needs more than a torque monster V8.

Dont worry,be happy.............

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Hi Anthony,

 

I have owned a 90 Stevens carb turbo (loved it), a 96 S4s (nice but a bit overrated IMO),a V8 GT (best car I've ever owned) which I still own for past 8.5 years and a few years back owned a late 87 G turbo (very nice). The Giuriaro turbo was very nice in every way but rattled even more than my first Esprit. I think over the years, the Esprit has become more refined. With the V8, this suits my driving and what I want from a car. Everyone's different though and what I like about my V8, looks, road presence, handling, engine sound, lots of torque (no need to keep dropping down a gear or being caught out), refinement (to Lotus standards that it), reliability etc. This may not be other people's view of what they want. 

My advise is that you may need to 'scatch that itch' and find out. If the idea keeps popping in your head then it's usually a sign that you want it.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

David Walters

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The last two posts are causing a minor meltdown in my head right now. I have the V8 itch and am trying to decide whether to listen to a friend who knows Esprits inside out and who swears by the S4/S4s, or my instinct which wants a straight-piped post 1998 V8 SE.

 

Dave, what's the chance I'll want an S4 after getting a V8? :P (NEVER letting go of my Turbo SE though)

 

I think I'm with Martin though - if a Sport 300 came along, it'd be a done deal. Hell of a compromise.

Vanya Stanisavljevic '91 Esprit SE | '97 XK8

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Sport 350 is still very underrated and it's the V8 I'd go for without question and I say that as a former V8-GT owner.

 

The performance was fantastic on my V8GT, equal to a 400bhp Nissan R34 GTR I also used to own. But S350 takes the handling to a whole new level.

 

I was lucky to drive one around the Nurburgring and still to this day have never driven any car that can attack the kerbs there like the S350. The ride was better than V8GT and it was the very definition of poise and composure. Very confidence inspiring. Seats are really supportive too plus the carbon fibre gives the interior a lift. Feels quicker than a V8-GT too. And lets not forget they made more Sport 300s!

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I had always dismissed the esprit until lotus finally put a proper engine into it :hrhr:

 

I love mine to bits, but I would also echo martin's feeling about fragility.  I think partly being too aware of under engineered items such as the gearbox.  whilst I drive the car quite hard I certainly don't give it the abuse I used to inflict on my previous 911 turbo

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Whilst I don't regret buying my V8, it did have enormous running costs. I only owned if for 14 months and nearly anything and everything went wrong with mine. That 14 months ownership in repairs and running cost amounted to over £11000 and put me in a position where I could no longer afford to keep it. When it was working, it was a stunning car to drive, but the downside was mine was not working more than it was working. I've Owned 2 Esprits and the next will most defiantly be back to 4 pot.

Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk - that will teach us to keep mouth shut!

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