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The divorce thing is fun, probably less ball ache to avoid marriage in the first place.

Speaking of hookups, the article's writer Hannah Elliot is Magnus Walker's other half, he who recently bought the red S2 heavily featured. Positive ripples. Would be all the sweeter if there were no ulterior motivation. 

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I personally think prices will drop a lot more as we Brexit. It doesn't matter unless you have to sell. I have restored two car s now with labour and parts you are looking north of £50k, and that's if

Healthy figure achieved by the JPS at Silverstone Auctions today - guide was £55-60K - sold for £65K inc buyer premium 😊

I am obviously conscious of market prices but all I will say is that I bought my Esprit at what I feel is the right time. Not too expensive but a goodly amount of money. I certainly couldn't afford to

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10 hours ago, Escape said:

Not the best article, but at least it agrees buying an Esprit is a good thing to do. ;)

I thought the best bit was "Lotus added a bigger engine and a turbocharger; later models had V-8s with 500 horsepower." :rofl:

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That's a new one, tubes that crack. No idea what that's all about. The sub-frames that the engine/suspensions hangs off perhaps?

Buying the best you can afford and keeping up with the maintenance (good mechanic essential) is always the best advice. But that's true of any classic car surely? Of course achieving the first sometimes precludes the second and therein lies the Esprit problem; over the years there have been too many examples that simply haven't been looked after.

Mine is ready to be picked up from Leven Lotus (nee Murray) after the annual A service and MOT. All that was needed to pass the MOT was some handbrake and emissions fettling. Only new part required during the service - sump plug and temperature sensor. Total cost £430 incl VAT. Not bad for a 17 year old, 90k mile (7k in the past year) V8 supercar. My mates 20015 Freelander is in for its minor service today and that's well over £400. Big thumbs up to Ian at Leven who has looked after my car for over 10 years now.

So, as far as I am concerned (and I know I am tempting fate here) , that tired old definition of Lotus simply doesn't apply. And at a valuation of around £18k more than I bought it for, its been a sound investment, not that I bought if for that reason of course.....

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Hmm, like the article, but old news to me, if anyone cares....talk to me 😜, I've owned & DRIVEN several Esprit's in my lifetime  an '88 Esprit & put 18,000kms did nothing except oil changes not even brake pads  (a 1989 Esprit Turbo non SE bought with 48,000kms & drove to 76,000kms even in winter once - NO issues, just oil changes & new tires @ my discretion) a 1990 Esprit Turbo SE - bought with 19,000miles & drove to 32,000miles - re-upholstered interior due to Miami heat shrinking the real leather, rear bumper repair from an unknown fool late night hit & run while parked on street, new brake pads all four corners & that's about it again pretty reliable & no let down) a 1991 SE & put approx. 33,000kms with only front pad replacement & oil changes & nothing else, a 1994 Esprit S4 non S4's put 11,000 trouble free kms I mean NADA, Zilch almost boring to tinker with, just put gas in & drove the snot out of it with oil changes in between,  & currently an '84 Esprit Turbo so far a cross gate cable update to better shifting (previously was OK but now better) new  headlight switch after putting approx. 2800miles & will accumulate more - as far as I'm concerned the Lotus Esprit has been one of the most reliable exotic - my Ferrari 308 was a pile of sugar & fragile as as a butterfly, the 328's were a little better but that timing belt wasn't fun after snapping one @ 58,000miles, the 400i was the best out of them, needed nothing but was not exciting. I apologize for babbling but I'm passionate about Esprit's as much as I am about older Porsche 911's, I used to care what people remarked about Esprit's before, now I don't care, I know better & am still enamored by them 😍 Tho the divorce thing I couldn't avoid 😂

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1 hour ago, Giniw said:

FYI I can supply you a sump plug for only £249 if you are interested!

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Ah, don't you just love English grammar.

Actually the car has been sat at the garage for a week and half while they tried to source the sump plug and sensor. Not sure where it came from (can't pick the car up until early next week) but it was £30 delivered. Which is of course a bit steep for a threaded bolt with a threaded hole drilled down the middle. Until I looked at a well known Esprit parts supplier website. £72.91 plus £14.58 VAT plus £5.94 delivery = £93.43. 😖😖😖 

How can that be justified. And that's without the sensor!!!

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18 hours ago, hedgerley said:

Ah, don't you just love English grammar.

Actually the car has been sat at the garage for a week and half while they tried to source the sump plug and sensor. Not sure where it came from (can't pick the car up until early next week) but it was £30 delivered. Which is of course a bit steep for a threaded bolt with a threaded hole drilled down the middle. Until I looked at a well known Esprit parts supplier website. £72.91 plus £14.58 VAT plus £5.94 delivery = £93.43. 😖😖😖 

How can that be justified. And that's without the sensor!!!

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People will charge what they can get away with. It's all just about the money these days for most suppliers. Of course, driven by customers who search all over the net to save themselves a pound or two when they used the suppliers time and effort to understand the part they needed.  So, in short, we can't and mustn't complain as actually it's our own fault!

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On 19/01/2019 at 13:55, CharlieC said:

Is this a typo or are Elan +2 prices really reaching this high? 

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/seven/1973-lotus-elan-2-s130-coupe/8389940

It is fully understandable imo that they are asking this solid price for for this beautiful Lotus.........If someone wants this specific car he will pay this price......I would do too...

The last years several Lotus types slightly gained higher prices (of which this Elan+2 offer is a typical representation) whereas prices for (certain) Ferrari's and Porsche's etc, etc were climbing very rapidly.

Awaiting some possible (economic) recession prices for F'& P's etc. are clearly descending the last 3-6 months.

In some very light way also Lotus prices are affected, but generally over the years the Lotus trend is intact.

Probably the involvement of Geely wit a more secure future, will support the Lotus Trade Mark with this trend.

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On 27/01/2019 at 00:07, markt said:

Any thoughts on what a cosmetically very tidy '78 Series 2 with sound mechanicals and plenty of service history would go for these days?

Asking for a friend :whistle:

In the UK, good RHD S2's ask between £25,000 and £32,000. They have to be absolute mint at the higher end though.

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@markt I'd see how the economy settles post Brexit. Things aren't great in the market just now. There are a few S2's already for sale in the full spectrum of condition.

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7 minutes ago, Giniw said:

I don't really think it's related to the Brexit, as it settles a bit everywhere if I am not wrong?

If business are holding off investment, and the housing market is stalling due to uncertainties in the marketplace, then what makes you think that the same stagnation in the UK classic car sales, and other luxuries are not equally effected?

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29 minutes ago, Giniw said:

Well apparently the investors are not that frightened:

https://www.xe.com/fr/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=1M

(I certainly don't pretend being a specialist, though :D)

I don't think hobby investors are looking at £30,000 sports cars TBH.

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