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We all know the V8 could push out more power with the limiting factor being the Renault boxes they "found" every so often. In reality the V8 could have been a beast of car but was ultimately flawed like so many esprit versions which is unfortunate

I think few would argue that the Sport 300 is "the One" in light of  accolades and purity of the esprit experience - The market certainly suggest this!

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What about my Yellow Peril, S3, went to a private collection. Two days later on ebay for 25k. I now she was good but bloody hell. 100% markup. Good luck to the guy if he get's though.

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It will be interesting to see what this does:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/esprit/lotus-lotus-esprit-s4s----------------1996/6043861?v=c

but surely that's the car that was for sale from Stocks for what seemed like years? That one definitely had tinted windows and a similar mileage. Wasn't there some story attached to it?

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You mean Barry Ely's Jonny........and yes was for sale forever.

Tinted lenses and windows need to go:angry:

http://www.barryelysportscars.co.uk/lotus-esprit-s4s-1996-very-low-mileage/

 

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Yes sorry, Barry Ely's. Peter Parker couldn't have had it long. I thought there was a story attached to that car which helped explain why it didn't sell?

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On 12/10/2013 at 16:29, rizla603104 said:

I don't know if I've woken up in the twilight zone - but every Esprit I see for sale (even the ropey ones) seem to be going for lots and lots of money.....

S1's - in good order - £25 to £40k

S2's and S3's - £10 to £16k

X180's > £10k

SE's > £12k

S4's > £16k

S4S >£19k

V8's >£19k

What's happened? Does anyone know - is it because the good ones are less and so they're worth more?

Has James Bond declared he's buying an X180 for the next film?

As a footnote there are also some absolute howlers for sale at the moment who seem to think that they have equally good cars and seem to be trying to cash in on the price increase too.

Look at this post now, 2 years later and you can see the differences, 19k for a V8 I wish. I started looking last summer, when average cars were in the low 20s. Found this lovely GT and tried to haggle, although I had a budget of 25k, I went to 26.5,  I was told straight, screen price, no less, 20151107_153249.jpg or on yer bike!

 How many cars can command this type of pricing. I walked away and eventually found my car (with boost gauge), under budget in March this year.

45 minutes ago, The Pits said:

Yes sorry, Barry Ely's. Peter Parker couldn't have had it long. I thought there was a story attached to that car which helped explain why it didn't sell?

I enquired about this S4S back in February, I was told it sold for 50k.

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8 hours ago, Steve V8 said:

 How many cars can command this type of pricing. I walked away and eventually found my car (with boost gauge), under budget in March this year.

I enquired about this S4S back in February, I was told it sold for 50k.

Less important but still somewhat costly on the 4 pots is the documented works done to the car. A v8 is a bloody leech on you wallet if it needs work. A cheap one is not necessarily a cheap one a few months into ownership !! These can hide all sorts of very expensive problems - and tears before bed is a common old thing.

i was warned - I'm daft and still bought mine - but by god I still spent more than I thought. Luckily - I'm daft !!, love my car and the figures still worked out just lovely.

 

 

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I'm always wary of service histories. There's an awful lot of "Check condition of (insert bit of the car of your choice here)", but that's just a claim that someone has looked at it, it doesn't guarantee that anything was actually attended to, if it needed it. The thing is, ALL Esprits are old cars, even that lovely blue S4s is 20 years old, and not everything is covered by the service sheets, far from it, and pretty much everything deteriorates with age.

I don't believe that low mileage and service history is necessarily a guarantee of condition or reliability, as no doubt a few of us, myself included, have discovered to our (serious) cost.


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:yes: @ian29gte absolutely correct - that very v8 above had a lovely documented history and sadly it's still having to have its lump pulled out - I really feel the pain having been there :angry:

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21 minutes ago, ian29gte said:

I don't believe that low mileage and service history is necessarily a guarantee of condition or reliability, as no doubt a few of us, myself included, have discovered to our (serious) cost.

Low mileage often means someone's forgotten about the car and it's been languishing in a lockup for years.

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.......or driving each year a reasoneable limited number of miles  a.o. while avoiding bad wether conditions, rain, salt etc and garaging the car in cool and low-UV conditions and/or accomplished by the availibility of one or more daily drivers........:)

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Or it means it's broken down so many times, they've become right pissed off with it, and don't want to drive it.

Or it means they can't afford to fix what needs repairing.

Or it means that the wife hates being driven in it.

Or it means the owner lost his job, and can't afford to run it.

Or..............................................................................

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54 minutes ago, rudolphwolven said:

.......or driving each year a reasoneable limited number of miles  a.o. while avoiding bad wether conditions, rain, salt etc and garaging the car in cool and low-UV conditions and/or accomplished by the availibility of one or more daily drivers........:)

Also a possibility. I get annoyed by doom-mongers saying that any very low mileage car has been somehow neglected and will require thousands to make right. My cars have always enjoyed a very pampered life under my ownership with OCD levels of care. Despite being taxed all year round, the mileage remains very low for the above reasons. These are then the cars which everyone wants and which earn top dollar when the time comes to sell.

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But by the same token have not been enjoyed as a road car by the owner which I feel is a shame. Keeping a car in great condition so the next person can get a lovely car seems pointless in buying it in the first place. I do accept however there are prople that enjoy pride of ownership and there seems to be lots of those around.

 

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I'll get around to it at some point.

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2 minutes ago, Trevsked said:

Keeping a car in great condition so the next person can get a lovely car seems pointless in buying it in the first place. I

I keep my cars in great condition because that's how I want them to be.

Unsurprisingly so do a lot of other people, so if and when I do come to sell I've never had to wait long for a buyer. Another side effect is that after nearly 30 years at the wheel I have never lost money on any of my nice cars, so that's a Win-Win.

 

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What leather treatments did you use ???


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