Gold FFM Barrykearley 6,363 Posted January 17, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Official figures show 367 made but doesn’t show the lhs/rhs split. Of course many could have been exported to rhd countries. Who knows Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
Tocus 197 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Giniw said: @Tocus > I just stumbled upon a description of the car you wrote to sell it (), and you state there are about 150 LHD but actually it's much less than that, because there has been around 100-150 LHD sent to the USA, which are LHD but not the real S4s specification of course, and around 100-150 RHD kept in the UK (and maybe a few sent to Japan, I don't know?). Anyway, unless I am wrong there are (were!) actually as few as around 50-60 real LHD S4s, and that probably includes a few 2L I heard about (mostly sent to Italy?). yess i have seen a lot of USA esprits S4s cars, so yess you could be right, the S4s is never sold in the Netherlands (because it was a very expensive car!) maby there are less then 50 cars, you never see them for sale, where are the real LHD S4s cars? there are 2 in holland right now, so its a very very rare car, my car is a real S4s with 2.2 engine, and yess the italian cars are 2.0 because of the tax over there, thanks for the message, but who will become the new owner, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Giniw 268 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 There are apparently 5 of them registered at the French Lotus Club according to https://www.club-lotus.fr/sheet/presentation/1/serie/37. Of course not everyone is registered to that club, so mine for instance is not counted — that makes at least 6 then! (but I suspect one of them is an RHD since it's a red with the same rims as this one in Brittany: https://www.mirari.fr/yMsN compared to http://www.papa35.org/videos/sortie-2016-1/rdv-mensuel-telethon-decembre-2016/lotus-esprit-s4-s.html ^^) @Barrykearley > I don't remember exactly where I found the USA numbers I am talking about but it looked serious (I mean, presented around the table you report), and while I doubted a bit, I got an official-ish* certificate when I bought my car which stated it was one of the ~50 (60? can't remember) LHD S4s ever made, which seemed suspicious at first but quite match the figures I saw later. So, it may well be right. *My certificate is not signed directly by Andy Graham or one of his colleagues but it's still a paper printed and signed by an official retailer if I remember well. EDIT: just found that old thread https://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/21431-s4s-numbers-how-many/ EDIT2 : sorry I may be a bit off topic! In a nutshell, there are most probably much less than 150 LHD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Chillidoggy 4,222 Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 3 Quote Margate Exotics. Link to post Share on other sites
Giniw 268 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post march 742 Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Surely that cannot be Barry's ownership chart as most of them appear to be running. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Barrykearley 6,363 Posted January 18, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Currently sat at 50:50 ? Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 10,571 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/esprit/lotus-esprit-s1/8056920 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Blanchard 1,546 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Beyond the iconic status and looks, that's £100k for not a very good car. Sorry to be the boy who noticed the Emperor's new clothes. 1 1 Quote Mark www.lotusespritturbo.com Link to post Share on other sites
Tocus 197 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 21-1-2018 at 23:43, Bibs said: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lotus/esprit/lotus-esprit-s1/8056920 Asking, and getting, that are 2 different worlds, but i wish the seller good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,387 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 2018/1/22 at 07:51, Mark Blanchard said: Beyond the iconic status and looks, that's £100k for not a very good car. Sorry to be the boy who noticed the Emperor's new clothes. I had to google that quote Mark ! Good story Quote A Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,405 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 We know nothing of prices soaring. Have you seen what they’re asking for De Tomaso Panteras these days? I quite like them as it happens but I don’t think anyone rates them particularly highly. Not an especially well known or desirable badge. Saw one recently asking £160k!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,387 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Good not agree more Jonny, Pantera a few years back 30k for a nice one, now 100 to 150k............. Testerossa, 35 to 50k a few years back. now 100 to 200 k . Other classic brands are not just rising in pricing, they are more than 3 times the value and more They have all become dream cars, that will stay dreams, Thankfully the Esprit is still within reach for most folks to live the dream Quote A Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Buddsy 1,554 Posted January 25, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, silverfrost said: Thankfully the Esprit is still within reach for most folks to live the dream Im living the dream! Actually I am if I could go back and tell the 11 year old buddsy in 1985 that I would own one of these beast myself I was almost certainly have fallen off my Ultra Burner! buddsy 4 1 Quote "Belief is the enemy of knowing" - Crrow777 Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Barrykearley 6,363 Posted January 26, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 7 hours ago, silverfrost said: Good not agree more Jonny, Pantera a few years back 30k for a nice one, now 100 to 150k............. Testerossa, 35 to 50k a few years back. now 100 to 200 k . Other classic brands are not just rising in pricing, they are more than 3 times the value and more They have all become dream cars, that will stay dreams, Thankfully the Esprit is still within reach for most folks to live the dream Arse is starting to drop out of the more common classic prancing donkeys. That’s most certainly not appearing to happen with the esprits advertised for sale currently. Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,387 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Think it is more the case that the Esprit, no matter how much we love it, will never go up in value as much as its metal sports cars of around the same era Barry imo. Quote A Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Barrykearley 6,363 Posted January 26, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Ahhh doubt not. I looked at a fibreglass 308 back in the day - they were sooo much cheaper than their metal mates. Just look what’s happened to the values of those now. Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,387 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 That is due to the fiberglass 308 been as rare as hens teeth and having a dancing donkey to go with it on the bonnet The Esprit is far from a cheap car, but sadly not seen in the same rose tinted glasses value wise like the other brands ! 1 Quote A Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Blanchard 1,546 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I’ve noticed quite a few 308GTBs and 348s at the £40k mark. Definitely a tumble in values in the last 6 months. 9 hours ago, silverfrost said: I had to google that quote Mark ! Good story I was irresponsibly drinking and posting. I don’t stand by what I said about the S1! 2 Quote Mark www.lotusespritturbo.com Link to post Share on other sites
Gold FFM Barrykearley 6,363 Posted January 26, 2018 Gold FFM Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 https://paulmattysportscars.co.uk/lotus-esprit-turbo-h-c/ this looks nice - £50k 1 Quote Only here once Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 1,780 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Barrykearley said: https://paulmattysportscars.co.uk/lotus-esprit-turbo-h-c/ this looks nice - £50k Lovely Barry but sitting strangely high at the front......even for an HC Turbo model which were a bit higher than the previous Turbo models. The red interior is stunning 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Pits 4,405 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 @Vipers was this the same HC you just missed out on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andyww 1,230 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Very nice but pity only half leather interior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stephenwhyte 1,780 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, Andyww said: Very nice but pity only half leather interior. I think the red HC interior looks good with half leather......the cloth looks very luxurious 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cbclotus 521 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 If I win the lotto .i will buy it .Also seen a great looking red HC turbo for sale looks fab .great interior also .i think 39.000.Really like the hc cars .very smart .subtle pin stripes etc .What a car .....Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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