Roger 912 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I see that the film star Paul Walker has been killed whilst driving his Porsche in the States. I wonder which model Porsche this one was. Not much left of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosbon_be Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 It's a Carrera GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSlow Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Seems like Paul was the passenger and that the car was driven by Roger Rodas. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516303/Fast--Furious-star-Paul-Walker-dead-fiery-car-wreck-Actor-killed-Porsche-GT-driven-friend-crashed-pole.html R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I didn't mind him as an actor. Enjoyed the movie Eight Below. Not much left of the car. RIP Quote All we know is that when they stop making this, we will be properly, properly sad.Jeremy Clarkson on the Esprit. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, some just stink more than others. For forum issues, please contact one of us Moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanya Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 A tragic loss - he apparently died on his way to a charity event which makes things all the more poignant (i.e. it wasn't a drunken bender by the looks of it). Must have been a hell of a crash considering the car burst into flames... Quote Vanya Stanisavljevic '91 Esprit SE | '97 XK8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Cannon Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Not that it's the be-all-and-end-all, but Top Gear's Stig spun one of those consistently and needed a morning's practice before trying for a lap time. A unforgiving brute was the quote I think, 0-60 in 3.9 seconds doesn't leave room for mistakes Quote In the garage no-one can hear you scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Esprit SE Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm really gutted about Paul Walker, although the fast an furious films are cheesy the car scenes have kept me entertained for years. A spectator on you tube said that the road they were on has people drifting on it most nights so maybe he's lost the rear end ? Makes you think twice about that little blip you give your car here and there, I really better get some new tyres!! (They are very old and turning into plastic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slewthy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Just awful for all involved. Side impact like that into a tree/lampost = a drift does it not? It wasn't a glancing blow after all. Very very sad. Quote "Intellectuals solve problems; geniuses prevent them." Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm not sure speculation helps, they could have had a puncture or similar? Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nello Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Very sad yes but looks like they were going way Too fast and Furious to me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Cannon Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I googled the location and it's an industrial estate type thing, with a massive perimeter road divided 3 lanes each way. You could get up to some speeds with the right car. It even looks like a racetrack from the aerial view, and well away from residential areas so not surprised it's an evening haunt for drifting types. I haven't seen any of the films, but my daughter is a fan. He seems to have been an alright guy by all accounts, a tragic waste. Quote In the garage no-one can hear you scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 This Autoweek link gives an insight into Roger Rodas. He was the driver of the car and and an accomplished race car driver in his own right. Rodas was a business partner and a good friend of Walker. They were both returning from their tuning/racing company called Always Evolving after holding a charity toy collection. Tragic for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pits Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Deeply tragic, his daughter is only 15. It must have been some shunt to destroy a carbon tubbed Carrera GT like that. Horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 They were driving like complete knobs to wreck like that, just another case of Too Fast and Too Stupid… It was a business park not a race track or a tight twisty canyon road. I hope all the ricky racers and tokyo drifters learn a lesson from this…. Life imitating art, shitty art at that. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Your compassion is almost palpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Ride Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 This evening's news indicated that they were in a 45 mph zone, entering a 15 mph turn. No word yet as to actual speed at the time.Can only hope the lamp post (and/or tree) impact rendered them both unconscious prior to the fire. Quote Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmxa Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 That street has a reputation for "street racing" .... Quote Paddle Faster, I hear Banjos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Fluid leak? http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/12/paul-walkers-porsche-may-have-suffered-mechanical-fault.html Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Here's a quote from a local asshat: This is my home town, born and raised in Valencia. I am very familiar with the crash site (I take my niece to the trampoline park right at the crash site regularly) and not surprised by the crash at all. We locals actually call the loop the Valencia race track. I have done more Flying Laps, power slides and drifts on those two corners then anywhere else. The majority of people in Valencia who own exotics go here regularly to go on a spirited drive around the track. I was with my friend one night in his 6.0 racing a F430 around the track for 3 laps, the speed you are able to carry around the entire course is scary fast. You are able to go just about flat out from the bottom of Kelly Johnson where Constellation starts up to the top of Hercules. The hard 90 degree turn in the upper right hand corner of the map from Hercules to Constellation is not as slow as you may think as you are able to carry good speed if you don't mind doing a massive power slide as the street is very wide. The area is usually empty and has zero to no traffic majority of the weekends and even weekdays. Regardless we are all stupid for what we do at times and unfortunately sometimes you have to pay to play. In this instance they paid with their lives. These chuckle heads were street racing, drifting around corners and crossing the centerline. This is what happens to the brain dead behind the wheel… Why should I feel compassion for some tools that that think they can drive like complete assholes without having to pay the price. This section of road is used as a race track by the rich and brainless….. Thinning of the herd I say. 1 Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Brain dead? Nice attitude. It's almost as if you have no idea of the credentials of Rodas and are blithely grouping him with a bunch of teenage inexperienced drivers. Your videos you proudly display to the world show just as much asshattery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Brain dead? Nice attitude. It's almost as if you have no idea of the credentials of Rodas and are blithely grouping him with a bunch of teenage inexperienced drivers. Your videos you proudly display to the world show just as much asshattery. Yeah right you are, my videos show me racing around a business park doing donuts and burn outs while others are on the road. Don't forget drifting and crossing the centerline….. Oh wait they don't do they ? I've looked up Rodas credentials and he like so many rich guys can buy a seat in most any race car. Big freakin deal that means nothing to me. He took his buddy for a joy ride at a high rate of speed and lost it and killed himself and Paul Walker because he was an asshat with more money than skill or brains.. Driving quick on track is not the same in the real world. I'd bet his last words were…"check this out"…. Fast and Dumberer Wake up call, If you can't stay in your own lane slow the hell down. There is no replay button in the real world. 1 Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) Great skills needed as you can see. https://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&oe=UTF-8&q=25601+hercules+st+valencia+ca&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x80c27ddfefd95d79:0x24e34abccd4a1828,25601+Hercules+St,+Valencia,+CA+91355&gl=us&ei=SjmeUsWPBYr32wW0qIDwBw&ved=0CC4Q8gEwAA What a waste . Edited December 3, 2013 by ronin Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Keep going. You're defining hypocrisy very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Please post up the def to hypocrisy if you will.. I've never done a donut in any car or have I ever drifted a car… I never race period. I have zero traffic tickets. This was just two rich asshats in a low mile poser Porsche turning an awesome car into a toaster. I guess they thought the Fast and Furious was real life and now everyone is sad, oh boo hoo. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Very disrespectful Frank based on pure speculation on your part. To use their deaths to say how great you are because you aren't dead due to an 'accident' is crass, you've no real idea what happened here. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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