Jacques 729 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 10 As I wrote I may be wrong, but I cannot get to the car today, but will take a look and a snapshot asap. My car is unassisted, so no servo. Kind regards, Jacques Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escape 529 2 Vehicles Report post Posted February 10 I had a nice threesome in the Workshop over the weekend. The black TE is being stored for the winter, until the owner finds the time to recommission her. The red SE (a highwing with a different spoiler fitted) was in for a service. Filip 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gvy 256 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 11 What year is that black Turbo Esprit en what is her condition? I just love black turbo esprits with gold decals and cream interior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanvm 70 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 11 Geert, it's only a wash and go Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanvm 70 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 11 Nice project: https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=273924514&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=15900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=7&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&sfmr=false&searchId=cefde9bb-e9d9-008b-f540-49556805a8a8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escape 529 2 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 10 hours ago, gvy said: What year is that black Turbo Esprit en what is her condition? I just love black turbo esprits with gold decals and cream interior. Geert, the turbo Esprit is a '86 if I'm not mistaken. It's been an ongoing project for some years during which ownership changed a couple of times as well (due to a divorce). It has been with 2 specialist, but neither got it running correctly. My friend has a Megasquirt and all (most) of the necessary hardware to convert to electronic injection and ignition. But he lacks the time to go through with it. He's got a Stevens N/A as well that hardly gets used. Exterior is pretty much OK, should clean up well, apart from a few scratches (storage scars). Not sure if the interior could be fully restored without retrimming. BTW, 2 more Esprits will be visiting the workshop soon. Filip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gvy 256 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, Escape said: Geert, the turbo Esprit is a '86 if I'm not mistaken. It's been an ongoing project for some years during which ownership changed a couple of times as well (due to a divorce). It has been with 2 specialist, but neither got it running correctly. My friend has a Megasquirt and all (most) of the necessary hardware to convert to electronic injection and ignition. But he lacks the time to go through with it. He's got a Stevens N/A as well that hardly gets used. Exterior is pretty much OK, should clean up well, apart from a few scratches (storage scars). Not sure if the interior could be fully restored without retrimming. BTW, 2 more Esprits will be visiting the workshop soon. Filip Nice, To be honnest, Although my esprit is running great and I have reconditioned my two dellorto's when I got the car years ago, I have always been curious about an EFI conversion. I have my opel GT 2.2 running on a vintage Bosch L-jetronic EFI system and winter,summer, cold ,hot, weeks of no use..... don't matter. It just starts almost first turn. I admit, that old L-jetronic is not as accurate as a modern EFI with lambda. So I sometimes imagine my esprit with throttle bodies and 4 injectors, LSU4.2 lambdasonde, TPS sensor, VR sensor, airinlet temp sensor , wasted spark ignition with DIS bobin ..... In the past I had a look at KDFI V1.4 system ( This is based on megasquirt) and I looked at about 900€ on materials and a lot of fun in the conversion. BUT: It would almost certain reduce the value of an S2.2 That S2.2 is running as good as an engine with 2 double carburators can run when new. It Idles stable, pulls without any hesitation with a lot of grunt and quick, redlines in high revs if asked and sounds like only a double carbed 4cyl can. I have those dellortos syncronised all the time. With KDFI and wide band lambda and DIS : It can be finetuned for almost spot on fueling , lower emission and higher gasmileage., with a self adjusting loop . More accurate then playing with jets ... It will start better in all conditions and can be made running the same in all conditions. ( carbs never do , because they don't take outside conditions into account) I can get that high tension from below the carbs (fuel fire risk reduced) If tuned good, it is also healthier on the engine mechanics. ( I know if not....it can destroy the engine quick f.e. lean conditions....) Edited February 12 by gvy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gvy 256 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 17 hours ago, Jeanvm said: Nice project: https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=273924514&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=15900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=7&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&sfmr=false&searchId=cefde9bb-e9d9-008b-f540-49556805a8a8 Jean, Please don't.... I have seen it and I just don't have the space left to park it and to work on it. I have pressed in a motorcycle between my two oldtimers in the garage and that is it...no more.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS blu 32 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 a beautiful S4s for sale in a Lotus workshop near my house. Unfortunately with the 912 2-liter engine original equipment in Italy. .... the workshop 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giniw 157 Report post Posted February 12 I wonder how many 2L S4s exist. Are they included in the 50-60 european LHD S4s? There are a few for sale currently on autoscout (about 3 if I remember well) @RS blu > love that Hethel sign Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS blu 32 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 I do not know if they are included in 50 LHD, but I've seen about 10 in Italy in 20 years... unfortunately the car has all of the S4s but the hp are only 243.Only the old SE in Italy has 268hp 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giniw 157 Report post Posted February 12 Are you sure it's "only" 243bhp? I think this is the standard power of the 2L but as the S4s has a bigger turbo and a specific ported head I reckon it should be a bit more powerfull than the GT3? Or maybe it's the standard 2L engine from the S4? (nice parking! ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS blu 32 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 243hp Standard 2Llike Italy S4 ,GT3 has 240hp but Is more lighter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanvm 70 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 12 4 hours ago, gvy said: Jean, Please don't.... I have seen it and I just don't have the space left to park it and to work on it. I have pressed in a motorcycle between my two oldtimers in the garage and that is it...no more.... That's the same problem I have and with a lot of parts lying around... I wish I had the space like that: 5 hours ago, gvy said: Nice, To be honnest, Although my esprit is running great and I have reconditioned my two dellorto's when I got the car years ago, I have always been curious about an EFI conversion. I have my opel GT 2.2 running on a vintage Bosch L-jetronic EFI system and winter,summer, cold ,hot, weeks of no use..... don't matter. It just starts almost first turn. I admit, that old L-jetronic is not as accurate as a modern EFI with lambda: NO: It can be finetuned for almost spot on fueling , lower emission and higher gasmileage., with a self adjusting loop . More accurate then playing with jets ... YES: It will start better in all conditions and can be made running the same in all conditions. ( carbs never do , because they don't take outside conditions into account) NO: I can get that high tension from below the carbs (fuel fire risk reduced) YES: If tuned good, it is also healthier on the engine mechanics. ( I know if not....it can destroy the engine quick f.e. lean conditions....) I woundn't go that far because with a decent electronic ignition you can get that almost what you saying here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdoom 91 Report post Posted February 13 I would suggest that EFI will correct air/fuel mixture for altitude, nice when hopping up over the Alps, plus deliver a lower emissions output at idle and low load due to timed delivery. Jetronic have proven to run fine on just about anything but the snappy sharp throttle response of multiple throttles will not be there. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escape 529 2 Vehicles Report post Posted February 17 Met 2 more Esprit owners yesterday and couldn't resist posting another group photo: 9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cor 53 Report post Posted February 17 Filip, simpel...WOW 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,289 Report post Posted February 17 Fantastic picture, The G car still looks like the boss in the room though 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTK 531 Report post Posted February 17 The Range Rover is the boss in the room 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 907 698 Report post Posted February 17 Sun out today so took the old girl out for a spin to a local classic car breakfast meet. 10 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverfrost 1,289 Report post Posted February 19 On 17/02/2019 at 23:51, GTK said: The Range Rover is the boss in the room Bad thing to say when restoring an Esprit, When they know you have feelings for another car they will cause trouble, Enjoy the the extra dramas during the s2 restoration now you have jinxed it ! lol. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTK 531 Report post Posted February 19 2 hours ago, silverfrost said: Enjoy the the extra dramas during the s2 restoration If it gives me any trouble I'll drag it off the mezzanine with the RR 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gis 96 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 19 3 hours ago, silverfrost said: Bad thing to say when restoring an Esprit, When they know you have feelings for another car they will cause trouble, Enjoy the the extra dramas during the s2 restoration now you have jinxed it ! lol. Actually I agree with that. Superstition aside, they react in interesting ways to what you do for them. When I picked mine up after I bought the car, the very first thing she did was blow a headlight lift fuse upon turning the key. A warning? Then there was a temper once in a while until I started investing some real quality spannering time and parts. She’s been happy ever since and not missed a beat. Oh, almost forgot, she dropped an exhaust manifold bolt right in the spot where I parked her. Unbelievable. Once in a while she even winks at me with one eye when the light pods are up as like to say she’s happy. Guess we just have to pay proper attention to them... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 907 698 Report post Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Gis said: Actually I agree with that. Superstition aside, they react in interesting ways to what you do for them. When I picked mine up after I bought the car, the very first thing she did was blow a headlight lift fuse upon turning the key. A warning? Then there was a temper once in a while until I started investing some real quality spannering time and parts. She’s been happy ever since and not missed a beat. Oh, almost forgot, she dropped an exhaust manifold bolt right in the spot where I parked her. Unbelievable. Once in a while she even winks at me with one eye when the light pods are up as like to say she’s happy. Guess we just have to pay proper attention to them... Enough about the wife, what about the car? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loose Cannon 546 1 Vehicles Report post Posted February 19 On 06/01/2019 at 20:31, Mark Blanchard said: I understand this was the same car at Castle Combe a few years back: I hope it survives, there is a tailgate at Douglas Valley Breakers that colour and Lotus cant have made many Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
