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S4 vs GT3 - the age old dilemma


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Remember this: THEY'RE ALL VERY OLD. And that means everything on the car. It's not just running gear that deteriorates, it's everything. Just because it has covered less miles doesn't mean it's a 'be

Wishful thinking obviously, GT3 is rarer so will be worth more in the long run, also gets favorable reviews in articles

As a GT3 owner (1996 so pre face lift) I am obviously biased but I believe a GT3 gives an all round better driving experience and is widely regarded as the best handling Esprit.  As far as I know the

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I would imagine the S4 to be a comfortable, more luxurious car and the GT3 to feel more basic inside and a bit stripped out, more driver focused. Much like the V8 GT vs V8 SE. The GT wasn't much lighter but it felt it somehow.

 

The S4 was Lotus's flagship car at the time whereas the GT3 was a move back to basics. I'd be amazed if that didn't show through in the way they drove.

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They're not that light anyway. I remember our old member 'Jonathan' in tear when we took his GT3 to the weighbridge at Brands Hatch! 

 

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/32085-esprit-weight/

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They certainly have a different feel to them and what you describe is about right. GT3 is not stripped out though (I wish it was) but does feel a little more sporty over the S4.

 

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I'll get around to it at some point.

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It's the logic of an S4 owner.

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I assume what is meant that they all handle and perform very well and as said earlier on the road under absolute non extreme track type driving there isnt a great deal between all the later models. At a guess..

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In what respect?

 

Trevor.

A couple of kilos here and there on an already lardy, slightly wobbly chassis, combined with a few degrees of geometry differences all add up to the placebo effect. They're the same car.

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So how does that work then?

 

Wishful thinking obviously, GT3 is rarer so will be worth more in the long run, also gets favorable reviews in articles :smoke:

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Naturally most people will own the model they prefer. So the vote's a foregone conclusion because the S4 is so common. :-P

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Being a GT3 owner I may be bias, but I do prefer my model to the S4. I'm not a lover of the half way up the gate spoiler, but prefer my S4s version on my car. I have the early dash, one of the last before the face lift, but the dash pod is unique to the Esprit, no other car had a dash like it, also I like plenty of dials. The S4s is perhaps the worst dash with the walnut wood, straight out of a Rover 75, doesn't suit the car.

 

Performance wise I doubt there is much in the two models. Mines been chipped, race injectors, performance exhaust, uprated suspension so it no snail when performance is required. Regarding value, I've read classic mag articles stating the GT3 is the model to go for as a future classic, the cost now is low, but they are rising well.

 

The only thing I don't like on both models are the wheels, nice spoke pattern, but never thought they were big enough to fill the wheel arches, one of the reasons I bought mine as it had the late V8 wheels.

 

I'm not keen on the GT3 decals as well, not so much the design, but the harshness of the design being in a dark colour. That's why I intend to get a set made sometime in the future in the car colour, but a matt version, so it's very subtle.

 

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