The Pits Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Great video. Looks completely insane in the best possible way. Sounds really good too, mind you the 2ZZGE unit always did, but the turbo whooshes and wastegate chatter take it to another level altogether. I'm jealous of your canyon roads too. We have some nice roads round here but they are infested with dawdlers. So much traffic in the UK we're busting at the seams. One thing we do have in common though, cyclists ruining our best driving roads! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Well I guess those Lotus decals are lost in the mail along with the any mention of Lotus from me... Oh well it's officially an RS211 from now on. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon350S Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Thought Bibs was sending you some stickers? Or did I dream that bit? If I pay for flights and accommodation and take you out for a 'Man-V-Food' sized steak, could I take it out for a spin? Ppppppppllllllease......?? Quote Chunky Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Dude do you think I would eat "a" steak ? I say bring the freakin cow over, I'll cut off what I can eat and then ride the left over home and we'll talk about it.. No stickers in the mail, so it's shooting for Tuned tomorrow morning.. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 They're being made! I'll send them over when I get them Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon350S Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Sounds like a plan! Have fun tomorrow Quote Chunky Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I've postponed the video shoot for today. It seems they don't have any commercial insurance and there is no way I want to put my car or myself in an awkward position. Oh well. I found it odd that asking to see their Commercial General Liability Policy to cover the car and themselves wasn't part of their plan. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 That is nuts. All their journo's should be (in the UK) covered under a blanket policy. Trouble is, if something did happen too, how would you value your car? Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I put a $225,000.00 value on it. The man hours alone over the past year are nuts. But more importantly is the liability I would face if he drove off a cliff and killed himself under my personal coverage. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferphil Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Every insurance policy here I have had has explicitly said that filming is not covered by the policy. I suspect it's the same there? Expecting you to insure for them is very dodgy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 He did get back to me and said he would get an independent policy to cover the car but we'll see what happens. This came to mind.. http://swns.com/news/motoring-journalist-forced-pay-110k-porsche-owner-test-drive-blew-engine-30381/ And when Matt commented that the owner of the car was a dick I began to have second thoughts about the professionalism of the whole deal.. Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 There's a lot of back-story to the Mark Hales case. That said, makes A LOT of sense to agree up front who is responsible for what in terms of coverage and liability and ideally you'll be liable for none of it. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) I'm sure there are two sides to that story but that's why as a professional you have insurance.... A few years ago there was a show filmed on my boat and before the first bit of equipment came aboard I was handed an insurance policy to cover any and all damages.. Photos were taken by the production team of the boat before and after the filming. And yes there were some damage done and covered without question.. Better safe than sorry I say.... Edited September 9, 2013 by ronin 1 Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferphil Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Bazza has a horror story from one of his experiences with a certain British magazine. I won't be doing any press any favours. I respect you for making sure they get their act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Well the Tuned part 2 video is in the shitter. I just got this from Matt Farah : Hi Frank- Based on my recent conference call with JF and multiple calls to insurance brokers this morning, we have decided not to film your car for Tuned. Drive safe I guess his own personal driving record killed his ability to get the required insurance.. And now on to the Jay Leno Garage show, they have at least sent me the proper professional documentation and insurance coverage.. I guess there is a difference between You Tube and NBC Universal Edited September 9, 2013 by ronin 1 Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon350S Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Shame. Looking forward the Leno show then! Quote Chunky Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 I thought Drive were very well funded by YouTube? Perhaps not! Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 So did I. Not having proper liability insurance coverage is the worst possible thing you can do.. Putting the owner of the car at complete personal risk is just insane.... "what could possibly go wrong?" Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentzion Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I don;t know.....Why would they let Matt Drive the Henessey that is supposedly worth at least (according to Henessey) four times that amount? Unless Henessey Isn't that thorough and had not asked for what Frank is asking for? It could be that the insurance company is timid about the valuation. Quote If the only thing constant is change, then why do we resist change the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest surferphil Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Valuation has nothing to do with it as you agree valuation and insurance is based on it. He probably does not have insurance for any car they test drive, it's just Frank was clever enough to ask.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) ^^^^ Right you are, they have zero insurance and have no intention of ever purchasing any. When I mentioned the 917 engine failure this was the response: Dude if that happened I would be the one in trouble, not you. You'd be the dick suing me, which the entire community has crucified for putting this journalist in the poor house. But as always journalist get the facts wrong... Sure if the journalist had any funds to back up his fuck up [dream on] and the owner is now a dick because he was smart enough to cover his ass and in doing so he becomes the dick. The funny thing is this reminds me of a time in Florida while working on my boat, in the slip next to me was a beautiful sailing vessel with a crew of four. While I was on my knees covered in teak caulking redoing my decks the capt. of the other boat asked me "when is the fuckin owner coming back"... He was in shock when I said, " I am the fuckin owner". That seems to be the attitude of auto journalists when they aren't asking for your keys. Edited September 11, 2013 by ronin Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pits Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Bloody hell! 2 minutes! I'd have barely made it past the editor's letter in Evo by then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 2 min.???? dam I need to have my I pad on a charger I'm in there so long... Maybe I should leave the I pad in another room ? 1 Quote I think it's fast enough…maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon350S Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Get a wall dock for it in ya shitter mate! Job done! Quote Chunky Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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