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Is this much play in the gear stick normal?

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I've also had a quick poke around on the web, found this, don't know if it fits (looks like it does) a possible quick shift option?

http://www.agmotorsport.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=22

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mk2-Escort-Gp4-Rally-Car-4-speed-Quickshift-Gearlever-/131313580635?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e92e63a5b

Both to fit a mark 1,2 escort. 

Only question I would have is, would it reach overdrive?

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Those would be the two big questions I suppose. Does it fit and well it with with a 5-speed? Anyone fancy being a guinea pig? To be fair Otley is pretty close to me to pick one up but if it doesn't fit right out of the box I don't really have the tools yet to... "manipulate" it.

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Not that I'm in a position to buy a new gear stick (mine is a lot better now after making some of the suggestions above) but I suppose you could buy one off ebay, test fit it, if it doesn't work send it back?

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Those would be the two big questions I suppose. Does it fit and well it with with a 5-speed? Anyone fancy being a guinea pig? To be fair Otley is pretty close to me to pick one up but if it doesn't fit right out of the box I don't really have the tools yet to... "manipulate" it.

The one found by Charlie is the very same one as the one I spotted from a different supplier and, if it is including vat, it is a fiver cheaper.

Otley is fairly close to you so is a better option. I would make the trip and not rely on posting.

The theory would be if the fork on the base of the stick is the same as the one from your car and the thread size where it fits into the gearbox is also the same it has to be "plug and play".

The fifth gear gate is in the gearbox not on the stick.

The only thing that may have to be done is the possibility of a slight bend in the stick to clear the dash parts. Again the use of a FBH or a length of pipe and a vice should sort this if required.

I am on for being a "guinea pig" I have to check this out and soon. My stick looks very similar to your pictures, butchered bodged, and no circlip. The replacement circlip for some reason I can not match in the boxes of new ones I have.

This is a dream solution, a shorter gear change travel, gets rid if the plastic thread, gets rid of the metal securing ring, gets rid of that stupid circlip and half the price of a new stick from Lotus specialists.

I wonder, what is the catch?

If there is a catch I aim to find out.

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I'd be interested to see what your findings are, it really does look plug and play but i've heard those words before...

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I said I would report back "in a few days".

Now four and a half months later I have finally bought and fitted the quick shift gear lever. Bought from GS Escorts in Widnes.

The owner, Graham, is such a nice chap. He had never heard of anyone fitting one to a Lotus before and was slightly bemused but assured me he has plenty of stock for TLF members.

What a beautiful piece of engineering it is too and a nicely chromed finish.

It does not have a bend as per the original stick. I may or may not have to replicate this.

At present the dash is out of the car so it is difficult to access clearance at the moment.

The thread matches, the fork matches and it seems to work on all 5 gears.

At almost half the new price of a standard Ford stick it is darn good value and a cracking upgrade.

This mod is a must for all Lotus 5 speed gearboxes.

I wonder why others have not fitted a quick shift in the past.

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Thanks for the update.  Have you needed to use anything from the old assembly or is it completely plug & play?  Even if the stick needs a bend in it (either use of a hammer or cut & weld), it sounds like an interesting upgrade :)

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Nothing except the gear knob is used from the old stick.

The easiest way to bend would be to heat it up but this would destroy the chrome finish.

However, with the shorter movement the bend may not be needed.

I will know this when the dash goes back in.

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Being a newbie I've been looking back through loads of old posts and came across this thread....

So two years on, how have you guys got on with your Ford quickshift gear levers? Did you have bend the stick? Have any longer term issues emerged?

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Had very good experiences with it and didn't have to bend it at all. Only issue I had was it coming off in my hand one evening while searching up to 4th but that was because I hadn't tightened it enough info the gearbox (not the easiest thing to get a grip on to get tight). But a highly recommended upgrade in my opinion.

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Thanks Dave, that's great news (apart from having the gear lever come off in your hand :o!!).

That's something else to put on my shopping list...

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I know this is an old post, but I had a rather nasty surprise  this afternoon as I prepare for my Elite's first engine start in 15 years. 

Got in to check that the clutch, etc. was still working, waggled the gear lever around and noticed that it seemed to have a lot of upward slack.  After removing all the usual bits to get access to the gearbox cover to check everything was tight and the locking tab in place, I discovered that I could lift the gear lever from the box.  It was quickly replaced and gears can still be selected although the last time I drove the car the gear change was horrendous. It appears that the ball under the collar has disappeared and probably now resides in the bottom of my box.

Anyway, searching for solutions, I came across this thread and wondered if anybody had any updates on the functionality, etc. also does the Escort quick shift gear lever look out of place as the ones I have seen look longer that the Elite stick?

http://www.agmotorsport.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=22

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Ffs - don’t remove it again. I’m sure I’ve read it’s a gearbox out job to fix the selector 


Only here once

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I know, when I pulled on it, I didn't expect it to lift out.  It's safely in third gear now while I figure out how best to fix it.

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20 hours ago, CJBP said:

IAnyway, searching for solutions, I came across this thread and wondered if anybody had any updates on the functionality, etc. also does the Escort quick shift gear lever look out of place as the ones I have seen look longer that the Elite stick?

 

http://www.agmotorsport.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=22

That's the one I ordered, and I love the functionality. A little bit of play but nothing like what there was before. Nice crisp shifts too. And I didn't really notice any difference in shifter height, and didn't have to bother bending it or anything like that.

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4 minutes ago, soldave said:

That's the one I ordered, and I love the functionality. A little bit of play but nothing like what there was before. Nice crisp shifts too. And I didn't really notice any difference in shifter height, and didn't have to bother bending it or anything like that.

Dave, thanks for the feedback.

Does your Eclat have a four or five speed box?  The thread states that it works with a 5 speed, but want to be sure before ordering.

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28 minutes ago, CJBP said:

Dave, thanks for the feedback.

Does your Eclat have a four or five speed box?  The thread states that it works with a 5 speed, but want to be sure before ordering.

Five speed, and it works with all five gears!

Only recommendation is to make sure that the gearstick is screwed into the gearbox tightly. It's tough to get a good grip on it for tightening up but do what you can.

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2 minutes ago, soldave said:

Five speed, and it works with all five gears!

Only recommendation is to make sure that the gearstick is screwed into the gearbox tightly. It's tough to get a good grip on it for tightening up but do what you can.

Brilliant, thanks.

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