diego 30 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hi all.... I'm interested in this car like everyone else.... When will we see leaked shots pre Geneva ? I expect soon ? Lotus should be leaking something to build this thing up pre launch ... get some interest going from those non lotus customers via the rags .... Not sure they have the clout to launch something new on the day and get 100pc attention from new customers. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1969 276 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do you think they have already finished the Styling? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBD 781 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do you think they have already finished the Styling? Definitively, the car must meanwhile be in testing and certification and production tooling must be underway. There must be a few prototypes underway in Hethel. It is supposed to be launched as the MY 2016, which generally means Q3/2015. Quote If you have the choice between a Stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell don't forget the Nomex®! Captain, Lotus Airways. We fly lower! Link to post Share on other sites
FredP 14 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Is a roadster version anticipated as well for MY2016? Quote (ex) Elise S1 (VIN 357) LHD Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Not as im aware.... theres a cup in the pipeline which could be really interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon350S 192 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Evora Cup? 1 Quote Chunky Lover Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Lol.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
softlips 19 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 No pics were ever leaked of the Evora pre launch, it would be easier to keep the facelift a secret. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Not really in line with the current trend of hyping a new release? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anubis1 14 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 the only things i know: 400 HP, no more Recaro seats, easier entry due to different construction, front and end cosmetic, new inside... there was a dealer presentation, but just heard about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bee 85 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Surprised about the seats: thought they were generally very popular! Perhaps it's not easy to customise them - I know some people have expressed annoyance at the lack of choice in that regard. I'll be interested to see what they've cooked up for the interior; they'll be up against the F-type S AWD and company of similar standing so they've really got to get it right. It needs to feel special before the engine's even started up. The power to weight ratio should make for some impressive performance with an increase from the current car's 240bhp/tonne going up to around 330bhp/tonne (400+ bhp and a 15% weight reduction). The Exige S V6 has around 320bhp/tonne by comparison! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j2 lot 30 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Think Lotus will have learned from the DB announcements, announce you will be making a new 'x' and your sales of the existing 'x' dry up, or at best, buyers expect to get them for bargain prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Al. 294 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Exactly and I'm told by someone who should know that no Roadster exactly the same as Bibs has been saying for ages and a consistent approach by Lotus. Don't hold your breath there then. My plan when ordering the LE some 12 months prior to launch was that was going to be my 2nd and upgrade one about 2012! Hey-Ho. Plans are for breaking. Quote A LEGS man and proud to declare it! Lotus Enthusiasts Group Scotland Autocar's Best UK Drivers Car 2009. Car's Performance Car of the Year 2009; Evo's Car of the Year 2009. Top Gear Sports Car of the Year 2009 Link to post Share on other sites
TBD 781 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 the only things i know: 400 HP, no more Recaro seats, easier entry due to different construction, front and end cosmetic, new inside... there was a dealer presentation, but just heard about. The Recaro seats are nive, but incredibly heavy. So, if Lotus want's to shave weight getting rid of them was a logical and necessary step. Quote If you have the choice between a Stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell don't forget the Nomex®! Captain, Lotus Airways. We fly lower! Link to post Share on other sites
Bibs 11,410 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I believe the seat replacements are made by Sparco and are much, much nicer than the current Recaros. Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Sparco dtms arnt too shabby ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bee 85 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Ahhh, I didn't realise they were so heavy! Just had a look at the Sparco ones and they do look really good as well as coming in a variety of colours, trims ect. More aesthetically pleasing Evora with a good looking interior, improved access/egress, better seats and Exige S territory acceleration along with the already great ride and handling? Could be pretty epic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 15pc must be 150kgs ish.... thats a lot ! What about the cup version ? When can we expect lotus sport to get involved ? The clever thing they did was to release the exige v6s and cup at about the same time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 ..... should add .... theres some quick stuff in this sort of price range from other marques expected at geneva. Last thing lotus need is to update a car thats been about for a while inline to todays comp only for the benchmark to be moved on again at geneva by others Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBD 781 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 ..... should add .... theres some quick stuff in this sort of price range from other marques expected at geneva. Last thing lotus need is to update a car thats been about for a while inline to todays comp only for the benchmark to be moved on again at geneva by others No doubt Lotus will be on par with the rest. There won't be anything new from Porsche to expect and who else even counts? Its not a question of that last tenth which makes any difference. Much more important is how many of the same you see at the traffic light. And I can't even remember the last time anyone passed me on the Autobahn. Quote If you have the choice between a Stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell don't forget the Nomex®! Captain, Lotus Airways. We fly lower! Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Cayman gt4 ? If its not firmed up by geneva it wont be soon after. Makes sense to me to offer the cup asap if theres no hp advantage. Also 4c cloverleaf with all 'issues' sorted rumour, already seen testing with cosmeric changes. trick is to get press to sell the car. Between now and geneva theres a vacuum. Not sure how long that will last after geneva? timing is quite a lot .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedaSay 851 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Getting the press to sell the car means only one thing getting the car right straight of the bat, there's no two way about it. I trust JMG, the guy is not pure marketing but the launch of the DS brand, a few years back, showed what he could do. He's going to do things properly and sensibly, we should just not expect things to pick up before mid january. Lotus has invested a lot into optimizing its VVA architecture with lower and thinner sills and realistically a completely reworked rear subframe to reach the 15% weight loss. Possible switch to aluminium there too??? The 15% power increase would be due to a switch to a direct injection engine, if true it will mean that the engine itself will be a tad heavier. New front facia (nose, headlamps and hood) and possibly new rear facia (lights and bumper), rationalized cockpit with better ergonomics and fittings. Dropping nearly 150kg is quite a lot so I'm wondering how spartan the new interior will be as the car is definitely more a GT than Exige. The biggest splash would be to introduce the entire Evora mark II range with NA, S and R models all at once along with a preview of the Evora cabrio which still may happen but the news of Spyker going into administration is not good news in this regard as the cars were probably due to share most of the roof cinematics, Here's hoping that Spyker and Lotus have gone into the thing far enough for Lotus to be able to make a go of it. Cayman GT4 / 911 GTS and Evora R400 are set to go head to head but the 4C cloverleaf will have to do battle with Exige V6 Cup. Edited December 3, 2014 by NedaSay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 interesting post thanks.....confirms a lot of what i have been told. however, is switching to GR-FSE direct injection just your opinion? i would have thought they would have just gone down the cheapo route with a smaller pulley on the SC? i could never really understand why lotus didn't do DI option from the off. gt4 will be a problem here and lotus should be trying to get 100pc attn of the press before that darling of the press turns up. 991gts is an old story and to be honest i don't expect the evora to be quicker but certainly better dynamically (that's just my opinion). no Cup car for a good while after S2 release , that's the theory Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBD 781 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The GR-FSE seems unlikely as Toyota hasn't put that engine in any transverse mount to date. It would be highly unlikely that the Lotus Evora woulg be the first Toyota powered car to do it in. Most likely are two options that have been discussed elsewhere: a larger compressor and/or a charge cooler. Quote If you have the choice between a Stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell don't forget the Nomex®! Captain, Lotus Airways. We fly lower! Link to post Share on other sites
diego 30 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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