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Good oil filter for 4 cylinder engine


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Hi all,

 

Has anybody found a good oil filter for the 4 cylinder engine? The current "genuine" Lotus ones from Lotus Aftersales are black and have a silver sticker (rather than the older white with green text) are too long and don't have a proper non return valve inside them.

 

There must be an alternative out there.

 

Steve 

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There's nothing wrong with that one in truth. The non return valve isn't applicable in a horizontal application anyway.

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Except - you have to remove the starter motor to fit it, and the oil drains out once the engine is turned off, and sometime next year Lotus will actually start to supply a filter fit for purpose, and Brian Angus thought it was shit!

 

Does anybody know of a good filter?

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If you don't want the oil to drain out, mount it vertically.

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Thanks for the helpful responses, I will change the filter for a Mobil or K&N as I am not happy with the Lotus one.

 

The starter has to be removed because the new genuine filter is longer than the old genuine filter - see (very poor) picture below, there is less than 5mm clearance between the starter and the end of the filter. I queried this with Gary Slattery, he said yes, it is too long, you have to remove the starter motor to fit it, we may get shorter ones next year. Pretty poor service I think.

 

 

 

 

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Pete at PNM sells a OE filter, which is made by a previous supplier to lotus to their spec, for a tenner! His part #PNME6000

 

http://www.pnmengineering.com/lotus-engine-parts.html

 

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I've encountered the too-long oil filter twice now. Steven is 100% correct in what he is saying; there isn't room to spin the filter on or off because it is so close to the starter.

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Tony K. :)

 

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I have to say I like the K&N stuff. The K&N filter also has a 1" nut welded on the back which makes it easier to remove and I think I bought mine from ebay for about £14.00

 

Buddsy

 

I cant understand why all oil filters dont have that hex "nut". Its such a good feature.

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Mann filters...

The mannfilter for our engines is the Mann W712/83.

I never used that one so I can not comment it.

 

Thank you for posting this.  Mann is my favorite filter brand.  I've been using them in Porsches, Mercedes, and VWs for years.  A long time ago, I tried to find the correct one for the 907, and had difficulty, as that filter was not available in the U.S., and due to errors from other manufacturers' cross-references, it was easy to end up with a Mann filter that had the same dimensions but no anti-drain back valve.

If any U.S. people read this, take note of the part number above;  if you go to a European car parts supplier in the U.S., they may have the wrong filter number for Lotus.  The one that Geert posted is correct.   :)

 

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Tony K. :)

 

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For those in the UK with access to Halfords. The HOF202 oil filter fits the 900 series engine. It has the non-return valve in it and is made under license by either Fram or Mahle for about five or 6 quid... Far less for those on trade.

It is fractionally shorter than the original lotus one.

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You wouldnt want to use them if they are made by Fram. Do youtube search of fram oil filters.

Buddsy

Just about to....

I do remember a thread in the Fram ones not being so great and as a result someone on another forum cut open the Halfords one and found it to be pretty good quality.

Even though I used to use the Halfords ones in my lotus excel.... I wouldn't since engine rebuild.

I have heard the K&n internals to be of superior construction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I&app=desktop

I get the feeling this guy hates Fram ;)

Ooh- don't like the lack of surface area, propensity to collapse leaving oil unfiltered and general construction...

I knew Fram weren't great but never really looked into it... That is quite shocking.

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You wouldnt want to use them if they are made by Fram. Do youtube search of fram oil filters.

 

Buddsy

 

I wasn't going to bring up Fram, but since you did, I'll chime in, too:

 

There have been at least a handful of incidences (2-3) with 907s in Esprits where the owners used Fram filters and the paper element either collapsed and/or got sucked out and tore up the filter, causing much mayhem.  This was years ago -- late '90s or early 2000s, but things like this can be forgotten and lessons learned can be lost, so it's good to have a reminder!

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As mentioned already but this was posted by another car vendor in the US a few years back showing why it was worth buying the correct filter compared to a cheaper one.

 

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Last night I replaced the oil filter on my SE with a K&N, after failing to source a Mahle locally and hearing both good and bad about the Mann I could get.

Much to my surprise, the old one was a Fram... I got it from SJ, and didn't take a close look when I put it on. Now I do feel bad about it. To be fair, it was sold as a pattern part, so I could have known.

 

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If you're going to put a filter on a V8 Ferrari that is not a UFI, it better be a Baldwin!

I used Mahle. Youtube filter geeks that took these apart rated them highly. They are also short enough to get in easily.

I've used Mahle a lot on other cars. After watching some YouTube filter geeks, it may be my new favorite. What is the part number for the 907/910?

Tony K. :)

 

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I remember why this conversation first came up on another forum now - It was to do with oil pressure coming up quicker with some filters than others being used.

Here is the link

 http://www.lotusexcel.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=5398&hilit=hof202

 

Page 2 there is a pic of the original and replacement Lotus Oe filter cut open v the Halfords one.

 

Note the metal strip present on the Halfords one sealing the 2 edges together instead of being glued.... I guess this means it is made by Fram. :thumbdown:

This construction on all the youtube clips seemed to show the filter material moving out of the way and/or collapsing allowing the oil to go through the system unfiltered :shock:

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