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Can anyone recommend a particular bluetooth dongle for fitting into the ODB on an Evora - and all any info on how easy it is to fit?

 

I'm look to install the torque pro software on an iPad .

 

 

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I have a cheap bluetooth dongle, bought it from ebay. It's from China and was less than £10. It works perfect with my Android phone (Samsung Note 3) and Torque Pro.

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I use Torque Pro on my Android phone and tablet through an ELM 327 dongle like this....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosteruk-Bluetooth-Wireless-Diagnostic-Scanner/dp/B00EXPJH3Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1418590141&sr=8-9&keywords=bluetooth+obd

I've used it on a number of cars and it's been faultless.

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If you are using an iPad or iPhone then you need a WIFI dongle rather than a Bluetooth as bluetooth doesn't work on Apple products for data. I use dashboard and its a great app imo.

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Not paid this much attention in the past but in summary do you buy/fit a BT dongle, connect to your phone and use the Torque app to show the info?

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This subject hasn't been discussed here for a while. I'm thinking of buying a cheap OBDII scanner for use with my iPhone. Can anybody recommend anything in particular?

I had a code reset yesterday for the engine running too rich on one bank. The issue seems to have been resolved simply by cleaning the electrical connections on the MAF sensor and throttle body, it would be nice to be able to check/reset these codes myself.

Do the cheap ones only handle the main engine codes? I'm led to believe they may not read the codes for ancillary stuff like air-con etc.

I've got an occasional problem with the air con compressor speed sensor reading slightly out of range. If I could reset this code, I'd be able to actually use the air con without a trip to the dealer!

Ta in advance!

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I am doing exactly the same research now. Will appreciate any suggestion, too. It will need to be wifi (not bluetooth) if you will use it with your iPhone / iPad but I guess you know that already.

Could someone also please confirm that any OBD II scanner will read not only from Lotus but other car manufacturers (BMW and Mazda in my case)? Mercedes seem to require specific readers...

There is another thread on this (I did not find my way to paste a direct link for you...). Search for the following thread in here:

Bluetooth ODB2 adapter

 

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I bought one of these a few weeks ago.

 

havent used it to read/erase any codes, but it certainly seems to work with my iPhone. I'm using "EOBD Facile" but would be interested to get any other iPhone app recommendations.

 

I bought it solely to view oil temps. And now realise the engine doesn't have an oil temp sensor. :ermm:

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Re Torque Pro and iOS - the previous poster is correct about iPhones and ODB dongles. The cheap & available Bluetooth dongles don't work so it needs to be a wifi (iOS compatible) dongle. These are generally much more expensive and there can be power drain issues if left connected  

As an iPhone user, I took a different tack. I bought a cheap, second hand Android handset and run Torque Pro on that with a Bluetooth dongle. (Be aware that not all dongles are the same. My first one, a very cheap eBay 'compact' special, actually manages to reset the CANBUS on one of my cars. Not good. The second, slightly larger and more expensive one (£10 vs £4) is much more reliable). 

Torque Pro will read (and reset) both engine codes and chassis codes. The engine codes are listed in the Evora maintenance manual (and readily available online). The chassis codes, however, aren't. I've shown them to a couple of Lotus specialists and the codes didn't mean anything to them either unfortunately.  

The other posters are also correct about the information available.  Don't expect to get oil temperature, oil pressure, AFR or sensible Intake Air temps. The required sensors aren't fitted to the standard engine. 

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1 hour ago, Arregueti said:

I am doing exactly the same research now. Will appreciate any suggestion, too. It will need to be wifi (not bluetooth) if you will use it with your iPhone / iPad but I guess you know that already.

Could someone also please confirm that any OBD II scanner will read not only from Lotus but other car manufacturers (BMW and Mazda in my case)? Mercedes seem to require specific readers...

There is another thread on this (I did not find my way to paste a direct link for you...). Search for the following thread in here:

Bluetooth ODB2 adapter

 

All OBDII scanners should be able to read basic parameters on all cars, as OBDII compliance is mandatory. I can confirm Torque works fine on Mercedes. If you want to access specific systems, like the Electronic Air Suspension on some Land Rovers, you do need more specialised equipment.

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Quick summary of what you need / can get

  • For Android a decent Bluetooth OBDII dongle will work, iPhone  does need a more expensive WIFI dongle
  • Torque Pro is about the best OBD app for Android you can get.
  • Dashware is the corresponding choice for iPhone
  • The dongle will work on any car with an OBDII connector, which became mandatory in the mid 90s
  • You can read and reset all engine related faults. The OBD  fault codes are standardized, but there may be additional proprietary codes that the App may or may not have access to.
  • You also get access to a wide range of engine data, ranging from RPM, speed, temperature, etc, but only for sensor data that is physically in the car (or that is calculated therefrom in the ECU).
  • The OBD reader will not give you access to Lotus (or other carmaker) proprietary secret codes (like the AC system). These require the Lotus Tech Centre.  There are Torque plugins for some higher volume carmakers that allow access ot some of their secret codes.
  • Stay away from the cheapest OBD readers, these may disturb the CANBUS, leading to the strangest faults. I can highly recoment Scantool, but they are a premium item.
2 hours ago, Bravo73 said:

Torque Pro will read (and reset) both engine codes and chassis codes. The engine codes are listed in the Evora maintenance manual (and readily available online). The chassis codes, however, aren't. I've shown them to a couple of Lotus specialists and the codes didn't mean anything to them either unfortunately.  

Lotus has no chassis codes, these readings are actually a fault of the OBDII dongle. Had the same experience until I bought a higher class (Scantool) reader. 

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I bought a Wifi Icar 2 dongle, to use with my Iphone, and it is perfect ... there's a button to switch off the dongle, even if it stays on the OBD connector.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PFFG1JE/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687682&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00PFFG1EO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=HWBBFJCHRKNG7J4MPS85

 

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it is small enough to stay in place ...

 

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Thanks for all the useful info folks. Now I just need to choose a specific device.

French Frie's Amazon link looks promising, except that the name in the description doesn't match the image, and of course I'd need an Amazon.co.uk link.

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38 minutes ago, Brendonian said:

French Frie's Amazon link looks promising, except that the name in the description doesn't match the image, and of course I'd need an Amazon.co.uk link.

This seems to be pretty close: https://www.amazon.co.uk/diagnostic-interface-Android-Supports-Protocols/dp/B01CG0XWDI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472202208&sr=8-1&keywords=vgate+iCar+2+Mini+OBD2+OBD+II+WiFi

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Pfft. That one's not even orange ;)

Interestingly, there now seems to be a VGate iCar3. I wonder if that's any better.

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Yep, several colors but same thing ... I avoid at least the french page of Amazon webiste :whistle:!

as an Apple geek, I choose the white version with an orange rubber :blush:... BTW, funny how they copied even the Apple packaging, with a small tidy white box ! Can't tell for the V3 version, but the V2 is fine ...

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If you really need a Bluetooth OBD Dongle (e.g. because you want to run your GoPro via Wifi at the same time): Kiwi OBDII works great ... but I had to order it from the US ....

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