neilwhitedesign Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hello Over the past few months I have been creating illustrations of the F1 cars raced by Team Lotus during the 1983-1994 seasons for a book I have been writing on the team covering that period. While I have been able to find (or recreate) all the relevant sponsor logos, I am struggling to find which fonts were used for the race numbers during that period. Can anyone out there help me with this??? Type 92 Type 93T Type 94T Type 95T Type 97T Type 98T Type 99T Type 100T Type 101 Type 102 Type 102B Type 102D Type 107 Type 107B Type 107C Type 109 Thanks Neil White 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2 lot Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Can't help with the font I'm afraid but just wanted to say thanks for posting the illustrations up, it's good to see the cars like that to compare the changes in design. Edited February 4, 2015 by j2 lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1994 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 hi Neil great illustrations , seems to be sparse information available on the last cars I can let you have photos of original rear wing end plates and Bonnets from the post 1990 cars showing the numbers , I think the Fonts are custom to Lotus let me know i can send or post a JPEG .image . Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfrost Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Same as above thanks for posting the pictures of the historic cars and sorry I cant help you with the icons Quote A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilwhitedesign Posted September 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hello Thanks to you all for your kind comments about my illustrations. Since my original post back in February I have managed to recreate all the numbers, so please find the finished cars below: Type 92 Type 93T Type 94T Type 95T Type 97T Type 98T Type 99T Type 100T Type 101 Type 102 Type 102B Type 102D Type 107 Type 107B Type 107C Type 109 I have also built a 3D model of the unraced Type 103 design if anyone is interested in seeing it. Thanks Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1994 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 would love to see the 103 , who was the designer ? the 107C should have the gear change blister as per the 107B, although the 107C had a paddle shift on the steering wheel the blister was kept in case the sequential gear change failed to work reliably . also on all the 107s and 109 the green headrest would probably be visible in profile . you will have spotted I am being hyper critical of your very fine artworks , I for one would purchase an A4 copy from you ... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilwhitedesign Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks for your reply Ben I never noticed the gearchange blister on the 107C, mind you the best quality side views I had of the car were of the other side, so that's probably why I missed it. I definitely add that detail now, along with the headrests, which would also need adding to the 101 and 102 series come to think of it. If you're interested in a copy of the artworks, send me a message and I'll see what I can do. The 103 was designed during the 1990 season, so would have been the work of Frank Dernie and Frank Coppuck. Work on the car was stopped due to lack of money after a full mock-up was built, along with production patterns of the monocoque, nose section and front and rear wings. My interpretation comes from a general arrangement drawing I was sent, along with photos of a scale model. For the parts that the drawings and images didn't show (basically the rear view) I looked at the 102 and Frank Dernie's 1992 Ligier design for inspiration. Hope you like it... My next project is the Type 112 that would have raced in 1995. Regards Neil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Grey Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I have some of my photos of the 102b here. https://picasaweb.google.com/116113253735518541549/LOG2005StLouis?noredirect=1# You can see the Hillfiger logo is half covering the gear change blister Quote Travis Vulcan Grey 89SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilwhitedesign Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Hello Vulcan Grey, thanks for your message and the wonderful photos. The Tommy Hilfiger logo on the side of the cockpit was much smaller earlier in the season. I've based my illustration on the car as it was in the San Marino GP, which is also why the Komatsu logo is a different font. I'll post a photo later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilwhitedesign Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Voila! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibs Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Epic thread chaps, love seeing these pics Quote 88 Esprit NA, 89 Esprit Turbo SE, Evora, Evora S, Evora IPS, Evora S IPS, Evora S IPS SR, Evora 400, Elise S1, Elise S1 111s, Evora GT410 Sport Evora NA For forum issues, please contact the Moderators. I will aim to respond to emails/PM's Mon-Fri 9-6 GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1994 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Stunning graphics of the 103 . Thought I would add a couple of photos of the 107C shows the headrest and gearchange blister. looking at 1994 photos, the 107C seemed to have a different livery layout at every GP has anybody any other photos of the late cars ? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo73 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 It's a shame that that never raced. It's a good looking racing car (and you can rarely say that about an F1 car). Great images, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploded Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hello Travis, Nice pics of the 102 of the Barber museum in Alabama. Lovely car indeed, but this is NOT a genuine 102B, it's a 102D (I believe) put into a 102B livery, but it does not even have the right body top. I talked about it with mr Clarke from the museum and he said who would ever know ;-) Well somebody does :-D I have some of my photos of the 102b here. https://picasaweb.google.com/116113253735518541549/LOG2005StLouis?noredirect=1# You can see the Hillfiger logo is half covering the gear change blister Quote Calypso Rose Rules the World! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exploded Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Lovely drawings Neil, as Ben said almost every GP the 107C's livery was somewhat different. But also the 107C started the year with a long diffusor, but Ben's car has the diffusor of the post Imola diffusor, which is cut off at the rear wheels following the accidents of Ratzenberger and Senna. So you don't even see the diffusor in a side view. And there was a 102C as well if you want to be that complete as you mention the 103 as well. This 102C was effectively built and tested on track. ;-) Edited September 14, 2015 by Exploded Quote Calypso Rose Rules the World! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilwhitedesign Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks everyone for all the info and kind comments. After seeing 1994's superb images of the 107C I have tweaked the shade of green on my illustration slightly, as well as adding the headrest and gearchange blister (see below): I would love to do an illustration of the 102C with the Isuzu engine. I know there were bodywork changes to accommodate the engine, but I've no idea what they were, so anything I created would be pure guesswork unfortunately. Also, here's the Type 103 in front of Ketteringham Hall. I e-mailed the hall asking if they had any high quality images of the building they could send me, but I never received a reply, so this is the best I could come up with from a Google search: I agree with you completely Bravo 73, it's a crying shame the car never hit the track. Enjoy! Neil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1994 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Exploded is correct , the rear undertray was cut forward of the rear axle, so no diffuser ,this removed the undertray link to the rear wing endplates, which caused the wing failure after Monaco, the 109 has wire cable links from the gearbox to the endplates to steady the rear wing . The front wing endplate was also cut back to the front of the tyre at the same time so the picture shows an early front and later rear . The Mugen V10 engine was narrower than the Ford V8 so the upper chassis tub and engine cover on the 107C was narrower than the 107B , you can see the taper in the chassis start just behind the mirror position. the smaller fuel tank volume was sorted by the introduced refuel pitstop . I think Neils 103 graphic should at least end up on one of the Lotus magazines front cover . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo73 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Also, here's the Type 103 in front of Ketteringham Hall. I e-mailed the hall asking if they had any high quality images of the building they could send me, but I never received a reply, so this is the best I could come up with from a Google searchBelieve it or not but I live a stone's throw away from Ketteringham Hall. Send me a PM with what you're after and I'll see if I can pop over and take some shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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